[VOTE] Mailets -> Mailet subproject

2008-03-02 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
though the mailet API has been moved to the mailet subproject, mailet implementations are still contained in the server codebase. managing mailets as part of the mailet sub-project will allow releases to be made independent of the JAMES server, reduce the learning time required before developers ca

Re: [VOTE] Mailets -> Mailet subproject

2008-03-02 Thread Stefano Bagnara
[X] +1 Move Mailets to Mailet subproject Stefano - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [VOTE] Mailets -> Mailet subproject

2008-03-02 Thread Serge Knystautas
On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 3:59 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [X] +1 Move Mailets to Mailet subproject -- Serge Knystautas Lokitech >> software . strategy . design >> http://www.lokitech.com p. 301.656.5501 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] --

Re: [VOTE] Mailets -> Mailet subproject

2008-03-02 Thread Norman Maurer
Am Montag, den 03.03.2008, 00:03 +0100 schrieb Stefano Bagnara: > [X] +1 Move Mailets to Mailet subproject > Norman - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [VOTE] Mailets -> Mailet subproject

2008-03-02 Thread Søren Hilmer
+1 -- Søren Hilmer, M.Sc., M.Crypt. wideTrailPhone: +45 25481225 Pilevænget 41Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] DK-8961 Allingåbro Web: www.widetrail.dk On Sun, March 2, 2008 21:59, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote: > though the mailet API has been moved to the mailet subproject, mailet >

Re: [VOTE] Mailets -> Mailet subproject

2008-03-03 Thread Vincenzo Gianferrari Pini
> > > [x] +1 Move Mailets to Mailet subproject > > Vincenzo

RE: [VOTE] Mailets -> Mailet subproject

2008-03-03 Thread Steve Brewin
Robert Burrell Donkin wrote on 02 March 2008 21:00: > [X] +1 Move Mailets to Mailet subproject -- Steve - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [VOTE] Mailets -> Mailet subproject

2008-03-03 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Robert, It sounds OK, so +1 in general, but with all of the refactoring, we've making it increasingly difficult to compare versions of JAMES. This would not be so bad if we had ever made a stable baseline prior to the refactorings, but instead we started with unstable baselines and refactored, me

[RESULT][VOTE] Mailets -> Mailet subproject

2008-03-05 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
i think we have a reasonable consensus to push on with this change i count +1's from Robert Burrell Donkin Stefano Bagnara Serge Knystautas Soren Hilmer Vincenzo Gianferrari Pini Steve Brewin Noel J. Bergman please jump in with any corrections i'll start some threads discussing details... - rob

Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Mailets -> Mailet subproject

2008-03-05 Thread Norman Maurer
Am Mittwoch, den 05.03.2008, 20:59 + schrieb Robert Burrell Donkin: > i think we have a reasonable consensus to push on with this change > > i count +1's from > Robert Burrell Donkin > Stefano Bagnara > Serge Knystautas > Soren Hilmer > Vincenzo Gianferrari Pini > Steve Brewin > Noel J. Bergm

2.3.x vs trunk [WAS Re: [VOTE] Mailets -> Mailet subproject]

2008-03-03 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 9:41 PM, Noel J. Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Robert, > > It sounds OK, so +1 in general, but with all of the refactoring, we've > making it increasingly difficult to compare versions of JAMES. This would > not be so bad if we had ever made a stable baseline prior

Re: 2.3.x vs trunk [WAS Re: [VOTE] Mailets -> Mailet subproject]

2008-03-04 Thread Stefano Bagnara
Robert Burrell Donkin ha scritto: trunk was forked from 2.3.0 several years ago now and contains significant differences not only in organisation but also design. i doubt whether anyone has the time required to perform a comprehensive manual comparison now whether the mailets are in trunk or else

RE: 2.3.x vs trunk [WAS Re: [VOTE] Mailets -> Mailet subproject]

2008-03-04 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Robert Burrell Donkin wrote: > Noel J. Bergman wrote: > > It sounds OK, so +1 in general, but with all of the refactoring, we've > > making it increasingly difficult to compare versions of JAMES. This would > > not be so bad if we had ever made a stable baseline prior to the > > refactorings, but

Re: 2.3.x vs trunk [WAS Re: [VOTE] Mailets -> Mailet subproject]

2008-03-05 Thread Stefano Bagnara
Noel J. Bergman ha scritto: Robert Burrell Donkin wrote: trunk was forked from 2.3.0 several years ago now Yes, I am keenly aware of the last time I had time to work on a release and the communal disinterest or inability to do one since. One question I have is, should the next release come fr

Re: 2.3.x vs trunk [WAS Re: [VOTE] Mailets -> Mailet subproject]

2008-03-05 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 10:37 AM, Stefano Bagnara <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Noel J. Bergman ha scritto: > > > Robert Burrell Donkin wrote: > >> trunk was forked from 2.3.0 several years ago now > > > > Yes, I am keenly aware of the last time I had time to work on a release and > > the communa

RE: 2.3.x vs trunk [WAS Re: [VOTE] Mailets -> Mailet subproject]

2008-03-05 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Stefano Bagnara wrote: > I think it is a different story. That branch involved much less code than > current v2.3-trunk differences but included major changes to mailet api. Yes, much less code. More code ==> more bugs. And you certainly aren't going to claim that there aren't major changes in t

RE: 2.3.x vs trunk [WAS Re: [VOTE] Mailets -> Mailet subproject]

2008-03-05 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Robert Burrell Donkin wrote: > releasing a 3.0 would involve a series of milestone releases to > build confidence in the new codebase rather than a manual process > of re-evaluating every change. Re-evaluating implies that they were evaluated in the first place. > i hope to have a function compl

Re: 2.3.x vs trunk [WAS Re: [VOTE] Mailets -> Mailet subproject]

2008-03-06 Thread Stefano Bagnara
Noel J. Bergman ha scritto: Stefano Bagnara wrote: I think it is a different story. That branch involved much less code than current v2.3-trunk differences but included major changes to mailet api. Yes, much less code. More code ==> more bugs. And you certainly aren't going to claim that the

Re: 2.3.x vs trunk [WAS Re: [VOTE] Mailets -> Mailet subproject]

2008-03-06 Thread Bernd Fondermann
On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 2:38 PM, Stefano Bagnara <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Noel J. Bergman ha scritto: > > > Stefano Bagnara wrote: > >> I think it is a different story. That branch involved much less code than > >> current v2.3-trunk differences but included major changes to mailet api. > > >

Re: 2.3.x vs trunk [WAS Re: [VOTE] Mailets -> Mailet subproject]

2008-03-26 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 6:49 AM, Noel J. Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Robert Burrell Donkin wrote: > > i'm happy with avalon but i accept that using avalon (as an IoC) is > > a major negative factor in attracting new developers > > I think that's a false truth that has become a meme. Drop t

Re: 2.3.x vs trunk [WAS Re: [VOTE] Mailets -> Mailet subproject]

2008-03-27 Thread Stefano Bagnara
Robert Burrell Donkin ha scritto: JAMES uses LogKit (and so avalon framework) for logging. though LogKit is good, it's tied to avalon and no longer widely used. most developers would be much more familiar with log4j and JCL. it is possible to use either of these libraries in an IoC fashion which