Re: More info from bounces

2003-09-02 Thread Serge Knystautas
Andreas Goggerle wrote: My first approach was to implement it into the existing bounce methods. But having a mailet responsible for creating DSNs also seems to be a good idea. Personally I would prefer this new bounce-architecture. So what does the community say? Which way should I go? I can see th

RE: More info from bounces

2003-09-02 Thread Andreas Goggerle
Hi Noel, > There are two sides of bounce management. James generating > notices, e.g. > RFC 3464 DSNs; and James understanding bounces, e.g. ,DSN, > VERP, etc. What > aspect(s) have you implemented? We extended James with a service called fetchdb that reads a mailjob-database and produces mails

RE: More info from bounces

2003-08-28 Thread Noel J. Bergman
. --- Noel -Original Message- From: Andreas Goggerle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 12:34 To: 'James Developers List' Subject: RE: More info from bounces Hi, I just implemented a simple bounce management within James. The code parses the James mes

RE: More info from bounces

2003-08-28 Thread Andreas Goggerle
age- > Von: Noel J. Bergman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 31. Juli 2003 04:57 > An: James Developers List > Betreff: RE: More info from bounces > > > Serge, > > > the challenge I have is the exact error message is > > buried deep in the me

RE: More info from bounces

2003-07-31 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Attached is a VERP class which basically has a simple embedded matcher framework. The provided implementation uses regex parsing. The code comes with a driver containing VERP examples in ASF-style, original djb style (http://cr.yp.to/proto/verp.txt), and Jason's iNovem-style. Mark might consider

RE: More info from bounces

2003-07-31 Thread Vincenzo Gianferrari Pini
t; Subject: Re: More info from bounces > > > Noel J. Bergman wrote: > >>The motivation for this is to recognize soft bounces (mailbox full, mail > >>servers down) from hard bounces > > > > Servers should probably not be sending a bounce, or at least a >

RE: More info from bounces

2003-07-31 Thread Jason Webb
I think it would be a cold day in hell if Lotus or MS give you good quality error codes... -- Jason > -Original Message- > From: Serge Knystautas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 31 July 2003 14:26 > To: James Developers List > Subject: Re: More info from bounces > > &

Re: More info from bounces

2003-07-31 Thread Serge Knystautas
Noel J. Bergman wrote: The motivation for this is to recognize soft bounces (mailbox full, mail servers down) from hard bounces Servers should probably not be sending a bounce, or at least a non-RFC 1894 bounce, for a soft error. VERP seems to be somewhat predicated upon bounces being permanent, a

Re: More info from bounces

2003-07-30 Thread Serge Knystautas
Noel J. Bergman wrote: what about doing something like stick the error response as a header in the bounce message? Obviously, we have no control over the content of another server's bounce messages, but see http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=18309, which proposes that James implement

RE: More info from bounces

2003-07-30 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Serge, > the challenge I have is the exact error message is > buried deep in the message. > what about doing something like stick the error response > as a header in the bounce message? Obviously, we have no control over the content of another server's bounce messages, but see http://nagoya.apac

More info from bounces

2003-07-30 Thread Serge Knystautas
I vaguely remember discussing this, but don't remember if anything conclusive was reached. I'm trying to hack together a VERP system (send emails with unique return-path so I can see which messages were undeliverable), and the challenge I have is the exact error message is buried deep in the m