Re: ShopTalk: RE: shoptalk: Epoxy for LDC Pro's

2003-07-25 Thread Al Taylor
Or not drinking enough. Yeah, that's it. Al At 10:24 PM 7/25/2003, you wrote: I lean toward Al's way of thinking. Does that mean I'm drinking too much? ;-( It's breaking a quarter inch above the hosel. Yep, epoxy up in the shaft can cause it to break but what makes me think this isn't it is the

Re: ShopTalk: RE: shoptalk: Epoxy for LDC Pro's

2003-07-25 Thread Steve \"Cub\" Culbreth
I lean toward Al's way of thinking. Does that mean I'm drinking too much? ;-( It's breaking a quarter inch above the hosel. Yep, epoxy up in the shaft can cause it to break but what makes me think this isn't it is the statement "they keep breaking". That insinuates multiple occurrences. Unless the

Re: ShopTalk: Retierment, IT AIN'T WHAT YOU THINK

2003-07-25 Thread Steve \"Cub\" Culbreth
Amen Bruddah!!!   Cub   :-( - Original Message - From: Don Flatgard To: shoptalk Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 4:40 AM Subject: ShopTalk: Retierment, IT AIN'T WHAT YOU THINK   :>) IT AIN'T WHAT YOU THINK  I worked fo

RE: ShopTalk: Loft & Lie auction

2003-07-25 Thread Tom Wishon
RK: I hear you!!  My experience with that machine was when I was with GolfWorks in the early 80s and I can tell you that our MIG got a little extra work when we did not hit the toggle off switch soon enough!!!    TOM       -Original Message- From: Richard Kennedy [mailto:[E

RE: ShopTalk: Loft & Lie auction

2003-07-25 Thread Richard Kennedy
Tom that is just about the time you call your friendly HelicArc man.  i was going to buy one when I retired and I should have because down even the best clubmaker w/in the Myrtle Beach area don't know what a HelicArc welder is or just what it can do.   RK   ---Original Message---   F

Re: ShopTalk: RE: shoptalk: Epoxy for LDC Pro's

2003-07-25 Thread Al Taylor
I tend to agree with Dave T's thoughts. In fact, I wonder if some engineer type could do the math on what kind of force a ball hit would have on the shaft tip at the hozel line. My guess is that an average shaft, hit on the sweet spot, would not break at those speeds. Just a guess. My gues

Re: ShopTalk: Epoxy for LDC Pro's

2003-07-25 Thread Carl McKinley
What shafts are breaking? Try something that is tip re-enforced(Harrison comes to mind). Some manufacturers may offer special order shafts for this purpose. Also might try a bi-matrix shaft. FWIW Carl --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > All of the drivers that this guy breaks, break > flush to 1/4" a

Re: ShopTalk: RE: shoptalk: Epoxy for LDC Pro's

2003-07-25 Thread Dave Tutelman
Well it might be -- but that's not my favorite theory, at least in part because I can't think of a reason that a torsionally stiffer shaft should be less likely to break in torsion. Now if it were a torsionally STRONGER shaft... Which brings us to... Let's think about how Harrison is likely to

RE: ShopTalk: Epoxy for LDC pro's

2003-07-25 Thread Lloyd Hackman
He probably has the wrong frequency shaft. I recently had a long drive guy who was breaking shafts until I fitted him into a softer shaft that matched his timing and he did not break any more shafts. llhack > [Original Message] > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 7/24/0

ShopTalk: RE: shoptalk: Epoxy for LDC Pro's

2003-07-25 Thread JHAVERS
He had a Harrison 1.8 in 1 of his drivers and it lasted longer then the Harrison 2.5's that he prefers. It very well could be torsional stress that is causing all the breaking. -Original Message- From: Dave Tutelman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 2:36 PM To: [EMAIL

RE: ShopTalk: Epibond 1217 Epoxy

2003-07-25 Thread bftaylor
Call Stix Golf 480-513-1333 they handle it. Will send you 1 tube or a case. Bruce Here is a source for this epoxy: http://www.aerotape.com/indexflash.cfm JB -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mark Fields Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 7:43 A

Re: ShopTalk: Loft & Lie auction

2003-07-25 Thread Dan Allan
RK, I don't know anything about it, that's why I asked. I thought it might be of some interest to.someone here? Even if only for discussion --- Richard Kennedy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > IF IT'S AN ELECTRIC MACHINE WHAT ARE THE two hugh > white levers on the sides > for. > > RK >

RE: ShopTalk: Loft & Lie auction

2003-07-25 Thread Tom Wishon
DAN: I have had a fair amount of experience with this machine in the past. The presentation is right in that the machine sold for about $3000 and was offered back in the 1980s from a company that was based out of Dallas. It is electric motor driven with a speed reducer that rotates the acme threa

Re: ShopTalk: Epoxy for LDC Pro's

2003-07-25 Thread Dave Tutelman
At 09:34 AM 7/25/03 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...He has a swing speed of 152 mph and has to carry a persimmon, steel shafted drive in his bag incase he breaks both long drivers he has in the bag. I would assume he's SOL until he finds a shaft with enough torque to keep the shaft from breakin

ShopTalk: Question re: Epoxy in Shaft (Was: Epoxy for LDC Pro's)

2003-07-25 Thread Ron Stare - Willoughby
As RK notes, "Just about any clubmaker will tell you to keep the shaft bore clear of any or all epoxy." I am curious from this discussion thread on building LD clubs what effect the epoxy getting into the shaft bore has on shafts breaking? I am not building clubs for any big hitters, and mostly w

Re: ShopTalk: Loft & Lie auction

2003-07-25 Thread Richard Kennedy
IF IT'S AN ELECTRIC MACHINE WHAT ARE THE two hugh white levers on the sides for.    RK   ---Original Message---   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, July 25, 2003 8:52:56 AM To: ShopTalk Subject: ShopTalk: Loft & Lie auction  Here is something I have never seen before.Does anyone

Re: ShopTalk: Epoxy for LDC Pro's

2003-07-25 Thread Richard Kennedy
J. What I think is wrong is the clubmaker is allowing some, even a very small amount, of epoxy into the shaft.   the one thing that most van clubmakers do for big hitters is make sure that the club they are building has a lot of head / shaft room.    The older clubheads use only about 1.5

ShopTalk: Retierment, IT AIN'T WHAT YOU THINK

2003-07-25 Thread Don Flatgard
  :>) IT AIN'T WHAT YOU THINK  I worked forty-five years for someone else So that I could retire. I dreamed of sleeping late And sitting by the fire.  I dreamed of long vacations, Enjoying stage and song. But, let me set you straight on that concept, It is simp

RE: ShopTalk: Epoxy for LDC Pro's

2003-07-25 Thread JHAVERS
Thank you Dr. That is some really good advise. These are the kind of tips I was looking for. A++ Dr. Regards, Jason -Original Message- From: James T. Voorhies, Consultant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 10:26 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: ShopTalk: Epoxy f

ShopTalk: Elta Golf Putters

2003-07-25 Thread Connie Mack Rea
Guys--   Caveat emptor.   Think at least twice about buying Elta Golf's Quest !! Accu-Path Putters.  A Canadian outfit. Putters have two white balls on the upper surface if right handed; three if left.   They're not just marginal; they're faulty.   Built one on Tuesday for adolescent son

RE: ShopTalk: Epoxy for LDC Pro's

2003-07-25 Thread James T. Voorhies, Consultant
J Leaving the paint should not be a source for the problem. Nicking or abrading the graphite at or near the shaft at or near the top of the hosel could be the source. Is there epoxy inside the shaft right at the break? I had this problem with big hitters on my long clubs when I first started ma

ShopTalk: Epoxy for LDC Pro's

2003-07-25 Thread JHAVERS
All of the drivers that this guy breaks, break flush to 1/4" above the top of the hosel. The reason why I'm asking is because I didn't make the club but do want to help this guy from breaking so many shafts. He has a swing speed of 152 mph and has to carry a persimmon, steel shafted drive in his

ShopTalk: Loft & Lie auction

2003-07-25 Thread Dan Allan
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