Re: ShopTalk: Handicap

2009-08-06 Thread Eric Schoonmaker
I played in a member-guest once where my opponent had entered ALL of his scores as T-Scores thereby avoiding the Tournament reduction calculation! Eric Schoonmaker - Original Message From: Childers, Tedd A tedd.a.child...@pfizer.com To:

Re: ShopTalk: Handicap

2009-08-06 Thread Eric Schoonmaker
At my course (par 71), the blues (typical member tees) are rated at 72.1/130. The golds are 73.4/137. I try to explain to the other members that a guy who plays from the golds all the time, and is a 10 hdcp (8.* index) probably hardly ever shoots 81. Certainly less often than a 10 hdcp (8.*

RE: ShopTalk: Handicap

2009-08-06 Thread Tom Flanagan
I've been a member of public, semi-private and private courses for years. I'm in a private equity club now. So I've seen about as many ways to cheat as there are, and a lot of ways to control handicaps. At one private club a member couldn't start until he checked in and received a numbered

Re: ShopTalk: Handicap

2009-08-06 Thread Sean Weijand
But if you practiced chipping and putting like a mad man for the week before the tourney and were able to eliminate 3-4 strokes in your round you wouldn't be your old handicap would you? Accordingly the committee should look at your tournament score and adjust it. I liken it to the player

Re: ShopTalk: Handicap

2009-08-06 Thread Tim Hewitt
I believe these odds are incorrect, and actually see examples of this regularly from a guy who is definitely NOT a sandbagger. Inconsistent yes, bagger no way. My Friday State Amateur group has a 5, an 8, a 10 and a 12 handicap player. We all post every score and putt everything out both

Re: ShopTalk: Handicap

2009-08-06 Thread Tim Hewitt
Ii don't think you have to worry about anyone here asking you to play with them for money. No worries. -t On Aug 6, 2009, at 4:42 PM, Robert Devino wrote: ok we have posted about 60 comments on the handi cap system in the last 3 days.  Almost every one has a story of a cheater or a course

Re: ShopTalk: Handicap

2009-08-06 Thread Jen Kuntz
From the RCGA (USGA may differ) the interesting part to me that I didn't know was the actual factors used to determine the slope, in the bottom paragraph. RCGA Course Rating - the evaluation of the playing difficulty of a course for scratch golfers under normal course and weather

Re: ShopTalk: Handicap

2009-08-06 Thread Dave Tutelman
At 04:30 PM 8/6/2009, Robert Devino wrote: I was taught in school that the course rating is what a scratch golfer is expected to play the course in. Length never comes into the picture for rating but it does effect slope. You are correct. Apparently you were taught more recently than I was

Re: ShopTalk: Handicap

2009-08-06 Thread Jack Ferguson
Amen Brother. - Original Message - From: Don M d...@mcluckie.net To: ShopTalk@mail.msen.com Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 12:54 PM Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Handicap But as was pointed out, if a guy who doesn't practice much decides to get serious about a tourney, he can improve

Re: ShopTalk: Handicap

2009-08-06 Thread GEORGE HUSON
How long a course is the rating does matter.  I play Glennloch Pines just outside of Houston a couple times a year. It has (3) 9's We normally play the Gleann/Pines off the middle men's tees 6474 70.3/124 par is 71. I can normally shoot around 85-86 I am 13.4 index and would get 15 strokes. If

RE: ShopTalk: Favorite club

2009-08-06 Thread Tom Flanagan
You mean the shaft or the 12 deg, 40 gram club? I got the club a month or so ago. And I got 3 U/L Cleveland shaft as well. The club? I guess I hit it pretty well with nominal distance increases but not well enough to recommend it. I let several guys hit it. Guy with handicaps from 0 to 18.

RE: ShopTalk: Handicap

2009-08-06 Thread Tom Flanagan
THERE IS NO WAY TO CONTROL CHEATING IN GOLF! A crook is a crook. TFlan Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 10:39:03 -0700 From: d...@mcluckie.net Subject: RE: ShopTalk: Handicap To: ShopTalk@mail.msen.com --- On Thu, 8/6/09, Tom Flanagan tflans...@hotmail.com wrote: At one private club a