How long a course is & the rating does matter. I play Glennloch Pines just outside of Houston a couple times a year. It has (3) 9's We normally play the Gleann/Pines off the middle men's tees 6474 70.3/124 par is 71. I can normally shoot around 85-86 I am 13.4 index and would get 15 strokes. If I shoot an 85-15 I am 1 under par. yet if I figure my Diff it is 13.4 (index would drop to 12.9) If we play the Loch/Pines from the back its 7301 74.7/131 par 72 Based on slope I still get 15 strokes. I have yet to break 95 a full 10 shots difference. If I figure my Difference for handicap it is 17.5. So I can go from a 85 player to a 95 player and change my handicap by just 4 strokes. I do not play the back tees unless I am with a 10 handicap or less customer & that is what he wants to play. It is just not a lot of fun hitting 3 & 5 woods for 2nd shots into the par 4's with water & sand all over the place. I more then likely would score better if I played it more often and hit layups on all the par 4's. That is also not a lot of fun. George Huson ByGeorge Custom Clubs
--- On Thu, 8/6/09, Dave Tutelman <dtutel...@optonline.net> wrote: From: Dave Tutelman <dtutel...@optonline.net> Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Handicap To: ShopTalk@mail.msen.com Date: Thursday, August 6, 2009, 4:14 PM At 04:30 PM 8/6/2009, Robert Devino wrote: > I was taught in school that the course rating is what a scratch golfer is > expected to play the course in. Length never comes into the picture for > rating but it does effect slope. You are correct. Apparently you were taught more recently than I was taught. It used to be that there was a formula for rating based [almost?] completely on length. That must have been about ten years ago or more. I just did a quick investigation, and that formula is no longer in use. Today it is an average of scratch scores on the course. Cheers! DaveT -- Shoptalk ** Sponsored by the new Aldila Voodoo. Learn more at http://aldilavoodoo.com/