Re: ShopTalk: Shaft behaviour

2006-10-30 Thread tflan
r 28, 2006 2:28 PMTo: ShopTalk@mail.msen.comSubject: Re: ShopTalk: Shaft behaviour   Hey T Flan and all,  Lloyd never ever never ever gives up. No matter what. LOL :-). I luv you guys, ~~myKey~~, Mike Phelan

RE: ShopTalk: Shaft behaviour

2006-10-30 Thread Childers, Tedd A
aight with these test clubs, but low and shorter by about 15 yards per iron and 30+ with the driver. Tedd -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Tutelman Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2006 10:39 PM To: ShopTalk@mail.msen.com Subject: Re: ShopT

Re: ShopTalk: Shaft behaviour

2006-10-29 Thread Vectorgolf1
In a message dated 10/29/2006 6:22:48 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Look at my review. Way back when I first wrote it, I began it with: "...I was pumped by the idea of such a small and [potentially] inexpensive device giving lots of useful shaft fitting data.  From an engi

Re: ShopTalk: Shaft behaviour

2006-10-29 Thread gerry tierney
nal Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2006 2:28 PMTo: ShopTalk@mail.msen.comSubject: Re: ShopTalk: Shaft behaviour Hey T Flan and all, Lloyd never ever never ever gives up. No matter what. LOL :-).I luv you guys,~~myKey~~, Mike Phelan

RE: ShopTalk: Shaft behaviour

2006-10-29 Thread The Kelley's
Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Shaft behaviour   Hey T Flan and all,  Lloyd never ever never ever gives up. No matter what. LOL :-). I luv you guys, ~~myKey~~, Mike Phelan

Re: ShopTalk: Shaft behaviour

2006-10-29 Thread Dave Tutelman
At 01:41 AM 10/29/2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My apologies to those who don't want to hear it... David, I've heard it before. From you. In person. Watching your guys fit people. Doesn't bother me, because... First let me say it is a fitting tool that gives you data, the same as a lie boa

Re: ShopTalk: Shaft behaviour

2006-10-28 Thread Vectorgolf1
In a message dated 10/28/2006 5:22:52 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Subj: Re: ShopTalk: Shaft behaviour Date: 10/28/2006 5:22:52 PM Pacific Daylight Time From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-to: ShopTalk@mail.msen.com To: ShopTalk@mail.msen.com Sent from the Internet Well

Re: ShopTalk: Shaft behaviour

2006-10-28 Thread Tom
Hey Professor; Indeed, coulda been you. What really cracks me up is that if I had followed the recommendations provided by the (you know what) I'd likely be in traction today, rather than undergoing epidurals (six so far, with six more scheduled for Thursday next). The good news is that they s

Re: ShopTalk: Shaft behaviour

2006-10-28 Thread Dave Tutelman
At 08:22 PM 10/28/2006, tflan wrote: ...I don't recall anyone on these here pages who was tested with LHack's device other than one guy (who I don't recall). What I do recall is that the tested one wasn't happy at all with the results. Could have been me. The shoe fits. The recommendation was

Re: ShopTalk: Shaft behaviour

2006-10-28 Thread Tom
Okay, ohhky. I get the firmness of the reply ;-) TFlan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 10/28/06 8:22:52 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm wondering then, theorists aside, has anyone ever actually tried the FitChip? I trie

Re: ShopTalk: Shaft behaviour

2006-10-28 Thread Arniesclubs
In a message dated 10/28/06 8:22:52 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm wondering then, theorists aside, has anyone ever actually tried the FitChip? I tried the FitChip twice and have the children to prove it. I just chalked it up to experience and call the result

Re: ShopTalk: Shaft behaviour

2006-10-28 Thread tflan
so I'd like to hear some empirical comments from you guys.   TFlan - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ShopTalk@mail.msen.com Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2006 12:57 PM Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Shaft behaviour Darn! It's going to be a Lng Winter!

Re: ShopTalk: Shaft behaviour

2006-10-28 Thread Alan Brooks
n the hands (not even a spring force because flesh is not a spring) until the shaft passes through straight. llhack > [Original Message] > From: Alan Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Date: 10/28/2006 6:39:50 PM > Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Shaft behaviour > > At 03:5

Re: ShopTalk: Shaft behaviour

2006-10-28 Thread Lloyd Hackman
straight. llhack > [Original Message] > From: Alan Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Date: 10/28/2006 6:39:50 PM > Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Shaft behaviour > > At 03:51 PM 10/28/2006 -0400, you wrote: > > It is also not a 'free' beam > > >

Re: ShopTalk: Shaft behaviour

2006-10-28 Thread Alan Brooks
At 03:51 PM 10/28/2006 -0400, you wrote: It is also not a 'free' beam > end, but I think a better model would be a 'hinged' connection to the mass > of the hands. ***It would be difficult to justify a hinge since the shaft is held in the hands over 5 to 7 inches of length and the wrists are no

Re: ShopTalk: Shaft behaviour

2006-10-28 Thread Arniesclubs
Darn! It's going to be a Lng Winter! Repeat after me LLHACK is right! Repeat after me LLHACK is right! Repeat after me LLHACK is right! Repeat after me LLHACK is right! Repeat after me LLHACK is right! Repeat after me LLHACK is right! Repeat after me LLHACK is right! Repea

Re: ShopTalk: Shaft behaviour

2006-10-28 Thread Lloyd Hackman
*** Response below > [Original Message] > From: Alan Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Date: 10/27/2006 10:13:53 PM > Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Shaft behaviour > > Sorry, Lloyd, this mechanical engineer doesn't buy it. The hands are far > to soft to produce a c

Re: ShopTalk: Shaft behaviour

2006-10-28 Thread MYKEYGOLF
Hey T Flan and all,  Lloyd never ever never ever gives up. No matter what. LOL :-). I luv you guys, ~~myKey~~, Mike Phelan

Re: ShopTalk: Shaft behaviour

2006-10-28 Thread tflan
Apparently it will go on until "dose" becomes "does".   TFlan - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ShopTalk@mail.msen.com Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 4:50 PM Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Shaft behaviour Please tell me I&#

Re: Re: ShopTalk: Shaft behaviour

2006-10-28 Thread drgolf
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE dont anyone respond to this topic! You are correct Arnie we have beaten this to death more than once. From: "Lloyd Hackman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 2006/10/27 Fri PM 07:32:17 EST To: ShopTalk@mail.msen.com Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Shaft behaviour A

Re: ShopTalk: Shaft behaviour

2006-10-27 Thread Alan Brooks
changed his mind and agreed with me. llhack > [Original Message] > From: Alan Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Date: 10/26/2006 10:41:14 PM > Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Shaft behaviour > > I read through Dave Tutelman's comments on the shaft behavior model that > FitChip i

Re: ShopTalk: Shaft behaviour

2006-10-27 Thread Arniesclubs
Please tell me I'm not loosing my mind! Wasn't the Fit Chip subject beaten to death before?  

Re: ShopTalk: Shaft behaviour

2006-10-27 Thread Lloyd Hackman
> > To: > Date: 10/26/2006 10:41:14 PM > Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Shaft behaviour > > I read through Dave Tutelman's comments on the shaft behavior model that > FitChip is relying on and I agree with him that their model is wrong. You > can't treat a golf cl

Re: ShopTalk: Shaft behaviour

2006-10-26 Thread Alan Brooks
I read through Dave Tutelman's comments on the shaft behavior model that FitChip is relying on and I agree with him that their model is wrong. You can't treat a golf club swung by the hands the same as a club clamped in a vise. The vibration mode is not the same. First, the hands are far too

Re: ShopTalk: Shaft behaviour

2006-10-25 Thread Dave Tutelman
At 07:28 AM 10/26/2006, André Cantin wrote: Tom. Please take a look at the following link: http://www.fitchip.com/fitchip4club.htm I always believed that the shaft reacted just the opposite from the pics above the graph. Your take please. I'm not Tom, but I agree pretty much with Tom's take

RE: ShopTalk: Shaft behaviour

2006-10-25 Thread Tom Wishon
06 4:29 AM To: ShopTalk@mail.msen.com Subject: ShopTalk: Shaft behaviour Tom. Please take a look at the following link: http://www.fitchip.com/fitchip4club.htm I always believed that the shaft reacted just the opposite from the pics above the graph. Your take please. André. -

ShopTalk: Shaft behaviour

2006-10-25 Thread André Cantin
Tom. Please take a look at the following link: http://www.fitchip.com/fitchip4club.htm I always believed that the shaft reacted just the opposite from the pics above the graph. Your take please. André. -