Re: [sidr] Replay protection in RPKI provisioning protocol

2010-04-27 Thread Robert Kisteleki
"The point where I currently disagree with Rob and Randy is on the granularity of the timer. Whatever granularity is chosen bounds the maximum signing rate. Thus, if you use a 1-second clock, you can't sign more than 1 object/sec. (Well, you can cheat and "borrow" from future seconds, up to the

Re: [sidr] Proposal to remove use of TLS from RPKI provisioning ("up-down") protocol

2010-04-27 Thread Warren Kumari
On Apr 26, 2010, at 10:24 PM, Rob Austein wrote: I'm writing to propose that we remove all use and mention of TLS from the RPKI "up-down" protocol described in the (expired) draft draft-ietf-sidr-rescerts-provisioning. I would like to second this. Background: In June 2007 we had a team of

Re: [sidr] draft-ymbk-rpki-rtr-protocol-05.txt

2010-04-27 Thread Sandra Murphy
On Mon, 26 Apr 2010, Warren Kumari wrote: While going through back mail I noticed this and that there seems to be no followups. That's because there's been no official call for adoption. And that is because the request is motivated by a reference in another document that is not itself a work

Re: [sidr] draft-ymbk-rpki-rtr-protocol-05.txt

2010-04-27 Thread Randy Bush
> Randy, could you confirm that you would like to see this adopted by > the working group without respect to the status of the other document? i confirm that we submitted draft-ymbk-rpki-rtr-protocol as a wg document irrespective of the status of draft-pmohapat-sidr-pfx-validate (which should be o

Re: [sidr] draft-ymbk-rpki-rtr-protocol-05.txt

2010-04-27 Thread Sandra Murphy
My apologies. I'll get right on this. --Sandy On Tue, 27 Apr 2010, Randy Bush wrote: Randy, could you confirm that you would like to see this adopted by the working group without respect to the status of the other document? i confirm that we submitted draft-ymbk-rpki-rtr-protocol as a wg d

Re: [sidr] Proposal to remove use of TLS from RPKI provisioning ("up-down") protocol

2010-04-27 Thread Seiichi Kawamura
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi > As one of the participants in the testbed, I'd like to chime in here > --getting the TLS config correct is really hard, and troubleshooting > that various failure modes is seriously non-trivial. I'll admit that I'm one of the testbed participant

Re: [sidr] Replay protection in RPKI provisioning protocol

2010-04-27 Thread Rob Austein
Hi, Geoff At Tue, 27 Apr 2010 14:07:30 +1000, Geoff Huston wrote: > > I dug out the original exchange from 3 June 2007 and I think you were > proposing some complications to the mechanism at the time No doubt. Thanks for the archives, I had forgotten some of the details, but I still think t

Re: [sidr] Proposal to remove use of TLS from RPKI provisioning ("up-down") protocol

2010-04-27 Thread Terry Manderson
On 27/04/10 12:24 PM, "Rob Austein" wrote: > I'm writing to propose that we remove all use and mention of TLS from > the RPKI "up-down" protocol described in the (expired) draft > draft-ietf-sidr-rescerts-provisioning. > I second this given my observations from October last year (http://www.

[sidr] SIDR Charter Question

2010-04-27 Thread Geoff Huston
three weeks ago I asked: > > It seems to me that the essential requirements for securing proxy aggregation > are missing at this stage, which makes it somewhat difficult for SIDR to work > on mechanisms without some re-spinning of the SIDR WG Charter (or some other > WG) that would permit the