Re: [sidr] New version : draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-protocol-10

2014-11-24 Thread Smith, Donald
Wouldn't GTSM and tcp-ao help with DOS attacks? I would recommend they be put in in the paragraph below. 7.3 Mitigation of Denial of Service Attacks BGPSEC speakers should implement an update validation algorithm tha

Re: [sidr] The need for SIDR - Google limited outage today due to bogus route announcement

2012-11-07 Thread Smith, Donald
Sorry wrong list:( "Pampers use multiple layers of protection to prevent leakage. Rommel used defense in depth to defend European fortresses." (A.White) donald.sm...@centurylink.com >-Original Message- >From: Smith, Donald >Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2012 2:28 P

Re: [sidr] The need for SIDR - Google limited outage today due to bogus route announcement

2012-11-07 Thread Smith, Donald
Doesn't look like we missed that much. A few of the talks may have been interesting but most were buy our product based on whom was presenting and what their subject matter was:) "Pampers use multiple layers of protection to prevent leakage. Rommel used defense in depth to defend European fort

Re: [sidr] BGPSec scaling (was RE: beacons and bgpsec)

2011-09-07 Thread Smith, Donald
I would guess you would get a very low take rate on "secure bgp" even if you gave it away (no premium). It would be interesting to see how many customers implemented MD5 for bgp peering sessions when it became freely available. It wasn't very widely deployed the last time I heard. It got a ton of

Re: [sidr] WGLC draft-sidr-rpki-rtr - take 2?

2011-04-07 Thread Smith, Donald
Sharing: Author's permission required. donald.sm...@qwest.com > -Original Message- > From: sidr-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:sidr-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of > Randy Bush > Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 10:41 AM > To: Christopher Morrow > Cc: sidr wg list > Subject: Re: [sidr] WGLC draf

Re: [sidr] rpki-rtr standard port

2011-03-09 Thread Smith, Donald
Sharing: No permission required. This is public share as desired. donald.sm...@qwest.com > -Original Message- > From: sidr-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:sidr-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of > Christopher Morrow > Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 7:40 PM > To: Yann Berthier > Cc: sidr wg list > Su

Re: [sidr] SIDR ReCharter - to capture/cover path validation work

2011-03-02 Thread Smith, Donald
Ignorance is Bliss. "Bliss (Basic Language for Implementation of System Software) was a systems programming language originally for the PDP-10 and DECsystem-20 written at CMU." K-Oberman donald.sm...@qwest.com > -Original Message- > From: sidr-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:sidr-boun...@iet

Re: [sidr] SIDR ReCharter - to capture/cover path validation work

2011-02-21 Thread Smith, Donald
I think your last statement missed the concept of paid peering. That is TIER 1 ISPs frequently announce TIER2 routes but consider the TIER2 "customer" as a "peer". Or am I missing something? > [2] For the more security-oriented folks in the room, at a very high- > level, peer's only announce the

Re: [sidr] bgpsec-reqs-00

2011-02-11 Thread Smith, Donald
(coffee != sleep) & (!coffee == sleep) donald.sm...@qwest.com gcia > -Original Message- > From: sidr-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:sidr-boun...@ietf.org] On > Behalf Of Shane Amante > Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 8:51 AM > To: Randy Bush > Cc: sidr@ietf.org; Russ White > Subject: Re: [sidr

Re: [sidr] Controlling routing (was Re: WG Chair Affiliation)

2009-09-22 Thread Smith, Donald
(coffee != sleep) & (!coffee == sleep) donald.sm...@qwest.com gcia > -Original Message- > From: sidr-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:sidr-boun...@ietf.org] On > Behalf Of Jeffrey I. Schiller > Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 8:53 AM > To: Curtis Villamizar > Cc: sidr@ietf.org > Subject: R