Re: [sidr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-threats-04.txt

2013-01-23 Thread Russ White
Indeed. My point was not to draw RPKI into the solution space, or claim something about its goals. I was just trying to illustrate that the wg has already invested (heavily) in systems and designs that are not semantically part of BGP. It just seemed silly (imho) to start claiming that

Re: [sidr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-threats-04.txt

2013-01-23 Thread Shane Amante
On Jan 23, 2013, at 7:41 AM, Russ White ru...@riw.us wrote: Indeed. My point was not to draw RPKI into the solution space, or claim something about its goals. I was just trying to illustrate that the wg has already invested (heavily) in systems and designs that are not semantically part

Re: [sidr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-threats-04.txt

2013-01-22 Thread Eric Osterweil
On Jan 17, 2013, at 4:41 PM, Andrew Chi wrote: On 1/17/2013 4:23 PM, internet-dra...@ietf.org wrote: A diff from the previous version is available at: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-threats-04 This revision clarifies the wording on route leaks as a residual

Re: [sidr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-threats-04.txt

2013-01-22 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 10:07 AM, Eric Osterweil eosterw...@verisign.com wrote: snip - I also don't understand how the text in this (a threats document) can claim that route leaks are beyond the scope of PATHSEC in a fait accompli manner... This is a threats document, right? This is a

Re: [sidr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-threats-04.txt

2013-01-22 Thread Randy Bush
I had thought the wg's broader goal was to protect those that rely on BGP? good luck with that. start an insurance business. it is to protect the protocol from being gamed. randy ___ sidr mailing list sidr@ietf.org

[sidr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-threats-04.txt

2013-01-17 Thread internet-drafts
A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Secure Inter-Domain Routing Working Group of the IETF. Title : Threat Model for BGP Path Security Author(s) : Stephen Kent

Re: [sidr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-threats-04.txt

2013-01-17 Thread Andrew Chi
On 1/17/2013 4:23 PM, internet-dra...@ietf.org wrote: A diff from the previous version is available at: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-threats-04 This revision clarifies the wording on route leaks as a residual vulnerability, addressing a comment by Chris Morrow.