[SiliconBeach] Re: Hiring a coder in Australia

Im a Melbourne based contract developer and work on my own internet product between gigs. Some things that will help with top end talent : - see us as fellow entrepreneurs with a deep technical focus : the best ones are - explain your biz goals : the added value is usually in the bigger technica

Re: [SiliconBeach] Re: Hiring a coder in Australia

I believe Atlassian had no shortage of applicants in their recent 'get 32' drive. Perhaps some useful approaches: http://www.atlassian.com/32/get-in.jsp Keith On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 12:03 PM, arcwhite wrote: > I'm currently working at SitePoint.com, and we're on the search for > two new full-t

[SiliconBeach] Re: Hiring a coder in Australia

I'm currently working at SitePoint.com, and we're on the search for two new full-time devs (A PHP developer and an iPhone app developer). We're having an extraordinary amount of trouble just getting resumes through the door; we've had recruiters contact us and describe the current IT environment as

[SiliconBeach] Re: Hiring a coder in Australia

Yep, its the same as hiring for any position. Find someone who seems good... AND THEN TEST THEM. Either by working together with them on a short project, or an open source project, or any other non-synthetic testing setting you can come up with. Interviews and synthetic tests are only smoke te

Re: [SiliconBeach] Re: Hiring a coder in Australia

Agree, which is why I said you need a set of employees that do the long-term stability work for the platform. And indeed a skilled lead developer is worth his or her weight in gold. ;-) Silvia. On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 11:47 AM, Alex Cooper wrote: > Silvia, > > I wholeheartedly agree--and it sou

Re: [SiliconBeach] Re: Hiring a coder in Australia

Silvia, I wholeheartedly agree--and it sounds like you speak from turbulent experience! The line between employees and contractors is a tricky one. While I agree that contractors are generally better motivated and more likely to have current skills, appropriate oversight and long-term planning

Re: [SiliconBeach] Re: Hiring a coder in Australia

+10 roBman On Fri, 2010-08-13 at 10:28 +1000, Silvia Pfeiffer wrote: > That said, it's actually rather difficult to find the really good > people amongst a community. And sometimes you end up paying a lot of > money for somebody who is actually a rather bad developer but very > good at selling

Re: [SiliconBeach] Re: Hiring a coder in Australia

That said, it's actually rather difficult to find the really good people amongst a community. And sometimes you end up paying a lot of money for somebody who is actually a rather bad developer but very good at selling themselves, even amongst their really good peers. Often it's not the loudest peop

Re: [SiliconBeach] Re: Hiring a coder in Australia

Communities of good developers are usually quite easy to find -- we congregate regularly at the various developer meetups around the city. Most big cities have perl, python, ruby, .NET, Java user groups... turn up and network. We can be a bit of a cliquey bunch, but that's more because we're una

[SiliconBeach] Re: Hiring a coder in Australia

Hi Guys, I'll start a new topic on outsourced development Jon On Aug 12, 11:46 am, rc wrote: > I think you'll have trouble finding great full time coders as great > full time coders are either already employed, or don't work full > time. > > Contractors can't rely on a single source of income,

[SiliconBeach] Re: Hiring a coder in Australia

Thanks for your advice. If you could make that recommendation - that would be great. It's tough to find top coders here - I suppose you go to the USA to make the income. With outsourcing - I'm concerned that the quality will be good but not great just like what you've stated below. Thanks again!

[SiliconBeach] Re: Hiring a coder in Australia

I think you'll have trouble finding great full time coders as great full time coders are either already employed, or don't work full time. Contractors can't rely on a single source of income, so many will only work part-time or casual for a range of clients. I have someone based in Australia that

Re: [SiliconBeach] Re: Hiring a coder in Australia

I would join JT on the fact that outsourcing is a very viable alternative to hiring someone. I personally prefer developers from Romania and Belarus ($12/hr for great results (I am a developer myself)) On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 9:14 PM, JT wrote: > Hi Paul, > > We moved from in-house developers to

[SiliconBeach] Re: Hiring a coder in Australia

Hi Paul, We moved from in-house developers to outsourcing in India. We find the agency approach allows us to get the skills we need, when we need them, and we get about a 4:1 cost advantage, with the quality equal to or better than what I've seen in Australia. JT On Aug 11, 3:18 pm, Matthieu St

Re: [SiliconBeach] Re: Hiring a coder in Australia

Hi, You may also want to look at: http://www.snowballer.com.au/ & sitepoint: http://marketplace.sitepoint.com/categories/looking-to-hire rgds, - matt. On 11 August 2010 11:42, Secret Agent wrote: > Thanks for your advice Jonathan.

[SiliconBeach] Re: Hiring a coder in Australia

Thanks for your advice Jonathan. Really useful and will get posting with them. On Aug 11, 11:28 am, Jonathan Clarke wrote: > Post the position in github jobs.  If they are a decent coder then they will > be a member of github. > > It just launched recently and has been getting a lot of press the