[SiliconBeach] Re: On moderation

2011-10-12 Thread Elias Bizannes
Thank you everyone for the intelligent discussion. You've raised points that go beyond what we should do but also how we should view this forum. When I started this group, I said: "There's no plan on how to go about this. Seriously. The only thing I do know however is that once you get people

Re: [SiliconBeach] Re: On moderation

2011-10-06 Thread Jonathan Clarke
Re-instate. Those who do not wish to deal with him can just add a filter straight to junk should you really not wish to ever see his name again. Benevolent dictator that you are Elias, you did say that you would re-instate after a period of time. Give him a chance. Jonathan On Fri, Oct 7, 2011

Re: [SiliconBeach] Re: On moderation

2011-10-06 Thread Rob Manson
+1 to reinstate Personally I'd rather have some slightly annoying posts from someone like David than inane discussions about how to save $5 on a domain name for my new home business or endless re-use of the mailing list as some sort of weird "twitter follow" chain mail system. At least there was

Re: [SiliconBeach] Re: On moderation

2011-10-06 Thread Joe Ward
If you argue with an idiot, nobody knows who the idiot is Time to move on gents - Joe Ward +1 650 863 1450 On Oct 6, 2011, at 7:31 PM, Fergus Barker wrote: If you said that you were banning for X, then I think its only fair it lasts that long. On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 1:01 PM, Michael Harries

Re: [SiliconBeach] Re: On moderation

2011-10-06 Thread Fergus Barker
If you said that you were banning for X, then I think its only fair it lasts that long. On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 1:01 PM, Michael Harries wrote: > Yep - I agree - important to be consistent. Although message to Elias > doesn't give much hope for better behavior. > > ___ > Michael Harries > > On Oct

Re: [SiliconBeach] Re: On moderation

2011-10-06 Thread Michael Harries
Yep - I agree - important to be consistent. Although message to Elias doesn't give much hope for better behavior. ___ Michael Harries On Oct 6, 2011, at 6:45 PM, Scott Handsaker wrote: > +1. > > A commitment was given for a 90 day ban, not a lifetime ban. > > Reinstate. > > > > On 07/10/

Re: [SiliconBeach] Re: On moderation

2011-10-06 Thread Scott Handsaker
+1. A commitment was given for a 90 day ban, not a lifetime ban. Reinstate. On 07/10/2011, at 11:56 AM, Phil Evans wrote: > Good folk of SBA, we can't presume how David will respond to being > reinstated to the group. This was a learning opportunity for him, and > perhaps others, and we shou

[SiliconBeach] Re: On moderation

2011-10-06 Thread Phil Evans
Good folk of SBA, we can't presume how David will respond to being reinstated to the group. This was a learning opportunity for him, and perhaps others, and we should give him the respect each of us has the right to expect from the group. Probation is too much overhead for someone to administer.

Re: [SiliconBeach] Re: On moderation

2011-10-06 Thread Bart Jellema
+1 on keeping the ban. This has nothing to do with free speech. Everyone banned from this list or not has free speech. They can post on their own blogs whatever they want. As a group of people on this list however I think we want to moderate what we LISTEN to. While there is free speech, we don'

Re: [SiliconBeach] Re: On moderation

2011-10-06 Thread Patrick Collins
Hi Laurence, This particular issue is not an issue of free speech. Dissenting voices, I agree, are good. I don't believe probation is a good idea, and below is my reasoning why. Elias's leadership role here is to build a community which helps to further entrepreneurial activities in Australia and

[SiliconBeach] Re: On moderation

2011-10-06 Thread Matt
I don't agree Lawrence, There is a difference between dissenting voices and veiled abuse. I don't know David, and don't know the nature of the original decision to make the ban, but I saw nothing redeeming in David's comments warranting probation. I believe Elias has exercised good leadership, an

[SiliconBeach] Re: On moderation

2011-10-06 Thread Jason Held
+1 Dr Lau Currently there's a mix of experienced and inexperienced folk here. New folk can get flamed for making what can be simple faux pas. And at the same time, we don't want lurking... I've always seen forums like the Ogre3d community (http:// www.ogre3d.org/forums/) as an example of how eve

[SiliconBeach] Re: On moderation

2011-10-05 Thread drllau
As someone who has studied the (not so fine) line between Commercial Speech and Free speech, perhaps I could offer some perspective a) dissenting voices do have a role (in politics it's called loyal opposition) but as Lessig points out, the architect of the internet (eg open BBS) doesn't always pr

[SiliconBeach] Re: On moderation

2011-10-05 Thread Matt
Hi Elias, I think Patrick summed it up well. Personally I have been really impressed at how the SB community has been able to identify what and when things are not quite right, mirroring your words: "It's not obvious, but I hope in open discussion people recognise the boundaries and common sense

Re: [SiliconBeach] Re: On moderation

2011-10-05 Thread Geoff McQueen
agree with continuing the current arrangement; there's plenty of other forums out there for whack jobs . keen to keep the signal to noise ratio of SBA high. On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 21:52, Kate Kend

[SiliconBeach] Re: On moderation

2011-10-05 Thread Kate Kendall
He sounds comically jealous. Solid response. Anyway, thanks Elias for continually clearing up the shite and investing your time and energy into the group. Personally, I don't think you get enough kudos for your leadership on Silicon Beach, so thanks again for creating a solid and international