[SiliconBeach] Re: Transparency on Spending

On 15/01/2009, at 3:05 PM, Sriram Panyam wrote: > A site/platform where anyone can upload public data and can maintain > any format they choose... Sites like this already exist. For instance, I found some public data to do with occurrences of crossing the floor in Australian Federal Parliam

[SiliconBeach] Re: Transparency on Spending

>> There is so much data out there that should really be free and >> open.. A lot >> of the information is available in paper format, if one can hire >> investigators to go through all these paper trails and so on - this >> only >> adds to the pain of obtaining the information... What give

[SiliconBeach] Re: Transparency on Spending

On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 14:33, Elias Bizannes wrote: > The kind folk at Atlassian have given us confluence which you can use for > collaborating on what you mentioned > Sjors: http://confluence.siliconbeachaustralia.org/ > We can create spaces - and restrict access if need be - on specific projec

[SiliconBeach] Re: Transparency on Spending

On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 15:05, Sriram Panyam wrote: > My whinge is who are they are to "not want to share the data"... how are the > officials allowed to get away with it, especially if it is public data? Simple, because nobody makes a big (enough) political issue out of it. I think if you can

[SiliconBeach] Re: Transparency on Spending

> My whinge is who are they are to "not want to share the data"... how are > the officials allowed to get away with it, especially if it is public > data? No one's "getting away with" anything, there just isn't an existing policy or convention laid out that ensures this is done as a matter of c

[SiliconBeach] Re: Transparency on Spending

My whinge is who are they are to "not want to share the data"... how are the officials allowed to get away with it, especially if it is public data? So how about this: A site/platform where anyone can upload public data and can maintain any format they choose... Given bandwidth, this should be

[SiliconBeach] Re: Transparency on Spending

Siriam you have this absurd situation in Australia that most major cities aren't willing to share that info, despite "public transport" allegedly being for the great good. For memory, Perth has data on Google Maps, and Adelaide has recently agreed, but you cant map public transport on the east coa

[SiliconBeach] Re: Transparency on Spending

Link to SB Confluence - http://confluence.siliconbeachaustralia.org (Elias' link takes you to the admin panel, which brings up an error, which is a bit scary) Carry on! Rai On Jan 15, 2:33 pm, Elias Bizannes wrote: > The kind folk at Atlassian have given us confluence which you can use for > c

[SiliconBeach] Re: Transparency on Spending

The kind folk at Atlassian have given us confluence which you can use for collaborating on what you mentioned Sjors: http://confluence.siliconbeachaustralia.org/ We can create spaces - and restrict access if need be - on specific pr

[SiliconBeach] Re: Transparency on Spending

well again that just brings to attention the issue of how this actually should be public data in the first place... On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 12:11 PM, Jeff Waugh wrote: > > > > > Actually that was part of what I was thinking of. Infact it would be > > awesome if the said site even allowed peopl

[SiliconBeach] Re: Transparency on Spending

On 14/01/2009, at 3:57 PM, Elias Bizannes wrote: > This is an iPhone app that has to be done one day: public toilet > locater. There are already a couple of applications in the App Store providing that functionality. One of them is specifically for Australia [1]. Cheers, -- Nathan de Vries

[SiliconBeach] Re: Transparency on Spending

Jeff Best mashup ever. I can see why restauranteurs may get pissed off. Hopefully this will help places like Coogee Bay Hotel ;P -- Tyrone On 15/01/2009, at 12:11 PM, Jeff Waugh wrote: > > > >> Actually that was part of what I was thinking of. Infact it would be >> awesome if the said si

[SiliconBeach] Re: Transparency on Spending

> Actually that was part of what I was thinking of. Infact it would be > awesome if the said site even allowed people to upload and maintain feeds > or dumps of the data - there could be problems with verification but thats > another (equivally important) problem... Meanwhile, here's an amusin

[SiliconBeach] Re: Transparency on Spending

> There was much discussion about this at Kate Lundy's "Foundations of Open" > local 2020 summit in early 2008 (during which both Pia and I spoke). Forgot the link: http://tinyurl.com/9mqp6g - Jeff -- Robot Parade http://www.robotparade.com.au/ m. +61 423

[SiliconBeach] Re: Transparency on Spending

Howdy, Actually that was part of what I was thinking of. Infact it would be awesome if the said site even allowed people to upload and maintain feeds or dumps of the data - there could be problems with verification but thats another (equivally important) problem... cheers Sri On Thu, Jan 15

[SiliconBeach] Re: Transparency on Spending

> Yes we all know about what is in it for the government in keeping the lid on > things.. But how to break down that wall?? What would it take to have a > service (web preferably) that lets us keep track of government spending down > to the dollar? atleast as a first step? Is this a fair enou

[SiliconBeach] Re: Transparency on Spending

> There is so much data out there that should really be free and open. There was much discussion about this at Kate Lundy's "Foundations of Open" local 2020 summit in early 2008 (during which both Pia and I spoke). There was a fair amount of reference to Open Source, but it was way more focused

[SiliconBeach] Re: Transparency on Spending

On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 16:15, Sriram Panyam wrote: > Actually going back to the public toilet locator, again why isnt the raw > data just made available? even putting that as a simple download (forget > apis) would make it so much simpler... In the case op public toilets, you could just map th

[SiliconBeach] Re: Transparency on Spending

Actually going back to the public toilet locator, again why isnt the raw data just made available? even putting that as a simple download (forget apis) would make it so much simpler... On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 4:13 PM, Sriram Panyam wrote: > Ah but see, one of the main reasons why the government

[SiliconBeach] Re: Transparency on Spending

Ah but see, one of the main reasons why the government is cash strapped is tries to take on projects that are outside its core competencies (what ARE the govt's CCs anyway? taxation?)... why should a govt do a public transport service application. when there are a thousand candidates better in d

[SiliconBeach] Re: Transparency on Spending

Oh - that reminds me (Thanks Sri!) This is an iPhone app that has to be done one day: public toilet locater. There is a national toilet locator service ready for the scraping: http://www.toiletmap.gov.au/ God bless the old people and their incontinence. And while anyone is at it, I tweeted this w