Re: [silk] Anecdotal precipitation shifts from the Gulf

2007-02-17 Thread Thaths
On 2/15/07, Shyam Visweswaran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Though judging from the north american media and policies cheap oil is apparently inexhaustible. The US will have to go through massive pain to turn away from oil. The entire suburbia / exurbia is unlivable without extensive motoring. No

Re: [silk] Speaker Series Bangalore, Vint Cerf

2007-02-17 Thread Venkat Mangudi
Charles Haynes wrote: On 2/10/07, Suresh Ramasubramanian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Udhay Shankar N wrote: There is a suspicious silence from the person who is involved in the organization of this event. ;-) Personalized invites based on work-ex make it sound suspiciously like GOOG's on

Re: [silk] Anecdotal precipitation shifts from the Gulf

2007-02-17 Thread Shyam Visweswaran
From 30,000 feet I agree with Kunstler's view about the undue dependence on oil. But the devil is in the details. According to Kunstler the oil-dependent suburbia died yesterday due to peak oil. Not so. The suburbia will be affected dramatically but I would think over a decade or so. A lot of the

Re: [silk] Anecdotal precipitation shifts from the Gulf

2007-02-17 Thread Udhay Shankar N
Shyam Visweswaran wrote [ at 11:07 PM 2/17/2007 ] : While changes will likely be painful the US can do it once the political will emerges. This is in constrast to Kunstler whose solution is to run off to some scandinavian country becasue the US is surely doomed. I think Kunstler addresses

Re: [silk] Anecdotal precipitation shifts from the Gulf

2007-02-17 Thread Shyam Visweswaran
Interesting. I have listened to Kunstler a couple of times, the last time was couple of years ago. As I recall, he was the epitome of Mr Gloom and Doom. I kinda lost interest in him after that. That he has come out now with his disclaimer tells me that I am not the only one who came away with the

Re: [silk] Anecdotal precipitation shifts from the Gulf

2007-02-17 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Sat, Feb 17, 2007 at 10:29:41AM -0800, Shyam Visweswaran wrote: Briefly glancing at his list one thing that strikes me is that he doesn't think that advances in science and technology will be a key factor in weaning away from oil dependence. IMO, what needs to happen (and will happen) is