Re: [silk] if all the music were free

2007-02-22 Thread Vatsal
may be in the quote good music be referred as popular or well known music, if only free music will be there, there will not be any sugercoated album promotions or tours, no videos to lure, music will not be popular just because of the hype created around it by record companies, the popular or

Re: [silk] if all the music were free

2007-02-22 Thread Deepa Mohan
Hmmm...If as a scenario for anything is an endless avenue... Deepa. On 2/22/07, Vatsal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: may be in the quote good music be referred as popular or well known music, if only free music will be there, there will not be any sugercoated album promotions or tours, no videos

[silk] global trading

2007-02-22 Thread freeman murray
from http://apnews.myway.com//article/20070220/D8NDE9680.html NEW YORK (AP) - E-Trade Financial Corp. (ETFCP) on Tuesday unveiled a global trading platform that makes it the first U.S. discount brokerage to give customers the ability to trade foreign-listed stocks online. The pilot project,

Re: [silk] Silkmeet 2/21 (post Vint Cerf speech)

2007-02-22 Thread Udhay Shankar N
Eugen Leitl wrote: [ on 11:27 AM 2/22/2007 ] That said - it was, as I said, competently executed. I wish he'd spent some more time on the interplanetary internet project. You don't need new protocols, just less distance between nodes. How do you propose that this situation comes about? The

Re: [silk] Silkmeet 2/21 (post Vint Cerf speech)

2007-02-22 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
At 2007-02-22 18:59:32 +0530, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You don't need new protocols, just less distance between nodes. How do you propose that this situation comes about? Just wait for the Big Crunch. -- ams

Re: [silk] Silkmeet 2/21 (post Vint Cerf speech)

2007-02-22 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Thu, Feb 22, 2007 at 06:59:32PM +0530, Udhay Shankar N wrote: How do you propose that this situation comes about? The shortest Populate space, turning it into active medium. The same thing will happen to terrestrial lines, too. distance between any point on earth (this includes satellites

Re: [silk] Silkmeet 2/21 (post Vint Cerf speech)

2007-02-22 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Eugen Leitl wrote: On Thu, Feb 22, 2007 at 06:59:32PM +0530, Udhay Shankar N wrote: How do you propose that this situation comes about? The shortest Populate space, turning it into active medium. The same thing will happen to terrestrial lines, too. Vint covered that kind of store and

Re: [silk] Silkmeet 2/21 (post Vint Cerf speech)

2007-02-22 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Thu, Feb 22, 2007 at 08:03:05PM +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: Vint covered that kind of store and forward thing - the difference is that right now, the earth's rotation, and the transmission lag, mean that this wont work too well Of course it doesn't work right now. The sky is not

Re: [silk] contracts vs. copyright

2007-02-22 Thread Carey Lening
I caveat this by speaking almost entirely based on U.S. law: On 2/22/07, Abhijit Menon-Sen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi. ... Now, clearly, their program itself is not a work derived from the GPLed one. But one popular perception is that the product (i.e. their program plus the GPLed

Re: [silk] contracts vs. copyright

2007-02-22 Thread Thaths
On 2/21/07, Abhijit Menon-Sen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 2007-02-22 12:49:13 +0530, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why can't they write their own anyway ? Unless it is not POP3 at all and POP3 is a placeholder (Yes, it's a placeholder for an entirely non-trivial program.) #include ianal.h It is

Re: [silk] contracts vs. copyright

2007-02-22 Thread Badri Natarajan
If, however, your software talks to the GPL-ed software through an API (ergo, libraries compiled or linked into your software), then your software becomes infected. I think Thaths has reached the heart of the issue - this is not really a question of law, it's a question of fact depending on

Re: [silk] contracts vs. copyright

2007-02-22 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
At 2007-02-22 13:14:38 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is obvious that the changes you made to the GPL-ed POP3 Er, just a moment. For the record: *I* didn't modify any GPLed POP3 server (or whatever). I constructed a simplified scenario (loosely based both on discussions elsewhere and a

Re: [silk] contracts vs. copyright

2007-02-22 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
At 2007-02-22 15:57:37 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As far as copyright is concerned, you're right -- its most likely _Not_ a derivative work, but would still likely infringe the GPL'ed code. How could it? I mean, if it isn't a derived work, by what mechanism could it possibly infringe on

Re: [silk] contracts vs. copyright

2007-02-22 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
At 2007-02-22 21:44:06 -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: this is not really a question of law, it's a question of fact depending on the circumstances of each case. Great, thanks. The modified POP3 server will however, almost certainly be a derivative work of the original POP3 server OK. As I

Re: [silk] contracts vs. copyright

2007-02-22 Thread Carey Lening
On 2/22/07, Abhijit Menon-Sen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 2007-02-22 15:57:37 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As far as copyright is concerned, you're right -- its most likely _Not_ a derivative work, but would still likely infringe the GPL'ed code. How could it? I mean, if it isn't a

Re: [silk] Eureka!

2007-02-22 Thread Gautam John
An innovative LED lamp named Pharox has been launched in the Netherlands. Apparently, this 3.4 watt bulb is a serious replacement for a 40 watt incandescent bulb. It is rated at 60 lumens per watt. It is also more eco-effective when compared to other LED lamps, because the production does not

Re: [silk] contracts vs. copyright

2007-02-22 Thread Thaths
On 2/22/07, Abhijit Menon-Sen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 2007-02-22 13:14:38 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is obvious that the changes you made to the GPL-ed POP3 Er, just a moment. For the record: *I* didn't modify any GPLed POP3 server (or whatever). I constructed a simplified scenario

Re: [silk] contracts vs. copyright

2007-02-22 Thread Abhijit Menon-Sen
At 2007-02-23 08:55:15 +0530, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I constructed a simplified scenario (loosely based both on discussions elsewhere In particular, on the linux-kernel list, where there's an ongoing thread about EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL and non-GPLed device drivers, and so on. -- ams

Re: [silk] contracts vs. copyright

2007-02-22 Thread Biju Chacko
On 23/02/07, Abhijit Menon-Sen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 2007-02-23 08:55:15 +0530, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I constructed a simplified scenario (loosely based both on discussions elsewhere In particular, on the linux-kernel list, where there's an ongoing thread about EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL and