On Dec 11, 2007 1:08 PM, Ramakrishna Reddy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm In, if its on the 17th, I'll be leaving to Pune on the 18th
> morning. So 17th is confirmed right ?
Looks like it - I spoke to Bharath, our host, and he seems to be on. :)
Udhay
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On Dec 10, 2007 9:12 PM, Udhay Shankar N <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Bharath Chari wrote:
>
> > Shiv,
> >
> > Come on - I am sure we will let you go back home before the 18th or
> > thereabouts. This was planned at my place on the 17th :-)
>
> OK, I give. Let's do it on the 17th at your place. Who
On 11-Dec-07, at 9:49 AM, shiv sastry wrote:
A survey of that variability would probably throw up some
interesting results.
but hey it doesn't pay to be a sociologist in India.
So you're saying that you're too cheap to get a real survey done, but
expect to be taken seriously on "facts" you
On Monday 10 Dec 2007 7:52 pm, Kiran Jonnalagadda wrote:
> Or counted Indian Christian women as Hindus without bindis... since
> it's hard to tell them apart by face alone.
Indian Christians are few and far between but but wearing a bindi is not a
problem for Indian Christian women. In fact In
Dinesh,
Thanks for letting us know. I will probably attend on the 14th. I assume
quite a bit of Open Source is being used and will be used going forward
in governance.
Venkat
Dinesh, Servelots wrote:
> Technology, Governance and Citizenship
>
> 12th, 13th and 14th December, 2007
> Indian Instit
http://chari.arachnis.com. Click on Location.
Bharath
Gautam John wrote:
> I'm in as well for the 17th.
>
>
I'm in as well for the 17th.
Udhay Shankar N wrote:
> OK, I give. Let's do it on the 17th at your place. Who else is in?
I'm in for the 17th. Where is Bharath's place?
On Monday 10 Dec 2007 9:12 pm, Udhay Shankar N wrote:
> OK, I give. Let's do it on the 17th at your place. Who else is in?
>
> Udhay
You'll have to show me Bharath's place
shiv
If no one else is game, then we will have 2/3rd of the (statistically invalid)
original eyeballs. On par for an Internet business, what say?
Bharath
Udhay Shankar N wrote:
> Bharath Chari wrote:
>
>> Shiv,
>>
>> Come on - I am sure we will let you go back home before the 18th or
>> thereabouts.
Bharath Chari wrote:
> Shiv,
>
> Come on - I am sure we will let you go back home before the 18th or
> thereabouts. This was planned at my place on the 17th :-)
OK, I give. Let's do it on the 17th at your place. Who else is in?
Udhay
Hey:
I'm one of the editors with Mint, a financial newspaper of the Hindustan Times
group. I'd like to come for this sit-down if not to talk to all of you for a
potential column or story, for the beer. :) Am likely in Bangalore 17-19
(Mon-Wed) Dec. Let me know if it happens.
Thanks,
JoseyJ
Nope. Definitely not in town on 21st and 22nd.
Bharath
Udhay Shankar N wrote:
> shiv sastry wrote: [ on 08:26 PM 12/10/2007 ]
>
>> My place is fine - but Thu being a working day for everyone at home
>> we'll have
>> to close up shop by 10-30 PM at the latest. Some beer will be needed,
>> and no
Shiv,
Come on - I am sure we will let you go back home before the 18th or
thereabouts. This was planned at my place on the 17th :-)
Bharath
shiv sastry wrote:
> On Monday 10 Dec 2007 7:43 pm, Bharath Chari wrote:
>> I think I can manage to be in town on the 17th. That's Monday. Does it work
>>
shiv sastry wrote: [ on 08:26 PM 12/10/2007 ]
My place is fine - but Thu being a working day for everyone at home
we'll have
to close up shop by 10-30 PM at the latest. Some beer will be needed, and no
dinner is planned :) Will get chips and stuff.
Let's just do it on a weekend. 21st or 22nd?
On Monday 10 Dec 2007 7:43 pm, Bharath Chari wrote:
> I think I can manage to be in town on the 17th. That's Monday. Does it work
> for everyone?
Whoops - just saw this. 17th is no good because Shashi is planning something
on 18th morning and I can't mess up her plans for the 18th
Let's look at
On Monday 10 Dec 2007 7:18 pm, Udhay Shankar N wrote:
> how about your house? :-):-)
My place is fine - but Thu being a working day for everyone at home we'll have
to close up shop by 10-30 PM at the latest. Some beer will be needed, and no
dinner is planned :) Will get chips and stuff.
shiv
On Monday 10 Dec 2007 7:20 pm, Venky TV wrote:
> I *have* encountered the phrase "terrorists have no religion" but
> definitely not as often as the term "Islamic fundamentalists" or
> "Muslim extremists". Most bomb blast reports in India routinely blame
> Muslim militants anyway[1][2].
>
> Venky.
On 10-Dec-07, at 7:22 PM, ashok _ wrote:
On Dec 10, 2007 4:21 PM, shiv sastry wrote:
er yes
shiv
maybe you counted the same women twice or thrice over... since
its hard to differentiate at a glance between two women wearing a
hijab :)
Or counted Indian Christian women as Hindus without bi
I think I can manage to be in town on the 17th. That's Monday. Does it work for
everyone?
Bharath
Udhay Shankar N wrote:
> Bharath Chari wrote: [ on 07:32 PM 12/10/2007 ]
>
>> If we can shift the date to the 15th, it could be at my house. Penance
>> for having sent the first message! Most likel
Bharath Chari wrote: [ on 07:32 PM 12/10/2007 ]
If we can shift the date to the 15th, it could be at my house.
Penance for having sent the first message! Most likely won't be in
town between the 17th and 24th.
I am not in town this weekend. So 15th is out for me. Can we have it
on some other
If we can shift the date to the 15th, it could be at my house. Penance for
having sent the first message! Most likely won't be in town between the 17th
and 24th.
Bharath
ps : Shiv, as I remember, is the reason the 1st message got numbered as the 3rd
message. His computer clock was off.
Udhay
Ramakrishna Reddy wrote: [ on 04:08 PM 12/10/2007 ]
Hey Silkers
Moods and Dudes at the FoUCamp V3. These are a few pictures through my lens
http://flickr.com/photos/ramkrsna/sets/72157603413659484/
My favorite picture is the Coconut and the Vodka.
Yes, me too.
What about Vinit / Surabhi's
On Dec 10, 2007 4:21 PM, shiv sastry wrote:
>
> er yes
>
> shiv
maybe you counted the same women twice or thrice over... since
its hard to differentiate at a glance between two women wearing a
hijab :)
On Dec 10, 2007 6:55 PM, shiv sastry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> So when did you last hear anyone blaming any Muslims, right wing or any wing
> for any bomb blasts?
>
> I only hear that "terrorists have no religion" but, on the other hand,
> Muslims get killed by "right wing" Hindus.
I *have* en
shiv sastry wrote: [ on 06:59 PM 12/10/2007 ]
Wednesday is a bad day. Therefore it may be a good day to meet. I don't like
beer but it will do if the place does not have conversation-killingly loud
music.
How about your house? :-)
Udhay
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Wednesday is a bad day. Therefore it may be a good day to meet. I don't like
beer but it will do if the place does not have conversation-killingly loud
music.
shiv
On Sunday 09 Dec 2007 8:34 pm, Udhay Shankar N wrote:
> The first message on Silklist [1] was sent on 19 December 1997. Next
> Wedn
On Monday 10 Dec 2007 5:01 pm, Venky TV wrote:
> Not really. By that line of reasoning, all "right wing Muslims" would
> need to blamed -- the ones who explicitly or implicitly support
> terrorism -- not all Muslims.
Bingo!. If we split hairs this is spot on.
So when did you last hear anyone bla
On Monday 10 Dec 2007 6:44 pm, ashok _ wrote:
> how would such a count be attempted... ? You speak as if you already
> conducted such
> a count
er yes
shiv
On Dec 10, 2007 2:55 PM, shiv sastry wrote:
> I am not talking of private behavior. In public count the percentage of Hindu
> women wearing bindis or mangalsutras versus Muslim women wearing hijabs in
> say the UK.
how would such a count be attempted... ? You speak as if you already
conducted such
On 12/9/07, Udhay Shankar N <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The first message on Silklist [1] was sent on 19 December 1997. Next
> Wednesday, it'll be 10 years since that happened. Many generations in
> "internet time", or even in dog years.
>
> Anybody wants to do a meetup where lots of beer is comsu
> I am not talking of private behavior. In public count the percentage of
> Hindu women wearing bindis or mangalsutras versus Muslim women wearing
hijabs
> in say the UK.
Er. Count the number of hindu women wearing a madisar 9 yard saree v/s the
hejab.
On Monday 10 Dec 2007 3:32 pm, ashok _ wrote:
> > A far larger percentage of Hindus and Christians in the West are likely
> > to behave secular and deny religious belief than Muslims.
>
> Where do you get such information? i know very many expatriate /
> people-of- indian origin muslims / hindus w
On Dec 10, 2007 4:09 PM, shiv sastry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If the the entire "right wing" are blamed for the latter, how is it wrong for
> the right wing to blame all Muslims for the former? Tit for tat group blame
> and group punishment after all. If you can blame the entire right wing, yo
On Monday 10 Dec 2007 3:06 pm, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
> Nothing short of public apathy - and
> a latent hatred of muslims - would have made conditions ripe for someone
> like Modi.
It is public ignorance rather than public apathy
Do you know that it is easily possible to justify the massac
Hey Silkers
Moods and Dudes at the FoUCamp V3. These are a few pictures through my lens
http://flickr.com/photos/ramkrsna/sets/72157603413659484/
My favorite picture is the Coconut and the Vodka.
regards
--
Ramakrishna Reddy GPG
Key ID:31FF0090
F
On Dec 10, 2007 12:28 PM, shiv sastry wrote:
>
> A far larger percentage of Hindus and Christians in the West are likely to
> behave secular and deny religious belief than Muslims.
>
Where do you get such information? i know very many expatriate / people-of-
indian origin muslims / hindus who beh
On Dec 10, 2007 3:22 PM, Valsa Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> An organisation called L2C2 in Kolkatta contributes and implements Koha.
> The lead person's name is Indranil Das Gupta email id :
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gautam, do contact him.
Thanks Valsa!
> An organisation called L2C2 in Kolkatta contributes and implements Koha.
> The lead person's name is Indranil Das Gupta email id :
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gautam, do contact him.
Indranil is a good guy - I know him from his ilug-cal days
srs
An organisation called L2C2 in Kolkatta contributes and implements Koha.
The lead person's name is Indranil Das Gupta email id :
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gautam, do contact him.
On Dec 10, 2007 3:11 PM, Gautam John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Dec 10, 2007 2:37 PM, Ramakrishnan Sundaram <[EMAIL P
On Dec 10, 2007 12:07 PM, Ramakrishnan Sundaram wrote:
>
> >> data centrally. As an aside, we're currently looking for an open
> >> source library management package.
> >>
> > Edubuntu + koha is just fine for that.
>
> Yes, but Koha's a pain to setup. I tried it some time ago and gave up.
>
Yeah,
Congratulations ! I wish I was there.
Cheers !
Valsa
On Dec 9, 2007 8:34 PM, Udhay Shankar N <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The first message on Silklist [1] was sent on 19 December 1997. Next
> Wednesday, it'll be 10 years since that happened. Many generations in
> "internet time", or even in d
On Dec 10, 2007 2:37 PM, Ramakrishnan Sundaram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yes, but Koha's a pain to setup. I tried it some time ago and gave up.
What did you end up using?
> Perhaps I am taking the analogy too far (but maybe I am not) but in
> India the
> criticism faced by a Hindu is practically the same whether he kills a
Collective guilt? Well, I don't know. Nothing short of public apathy - and
a latent hatred of muslims - would have made conditions ripe for som
On Monday 10 Dec 2007 1:10 pm, Ramakrishnan Sundaram wrote:
> I'm an atheist, sometimes militantly so, and I have several friends who
> are openly religiously Hindu. No one, to my knowledge, has ever
> suggested that they are right-wing Hindus.
Your friends are lucky, because they would be dubbed
On Monday 10 Dec 2007 1:08 pm, Srini Ramakrishnan wrote:
> By carrying that statement to its logical end, I'd say Hindus are not
> alone - the Muslims fear being dubbed hardcore radicals if they wear
> traditional Islamic attire, and the Christians fear being termed as
> proselytizing missionaries
Suresh Ramasubramanian said the following on 10/12/2007 12:52:
>> data centrally. As an aside, we're currently looking for an open
>> source library management package.
>>
> Edubuntu + koha is just fine for that.
Yes, but Koha's a pain to setup. I tried it some time ago and gave up.
Ram
On Dec 10, 2007 2:17 PM, Kiran Jonnalagadda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What are the arguments against non-Windows setups? I'd say the choice
> between Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Edubuntu would be a fair one.
That it isn't Windows. Though I'd be happy if I could find a study
that showed that it doesn't
> A primary purpose is to maintain a roster of books and track what's
> being read etc. Assuming internet access, we'd like to collate this
> data centrally. As an aside, we're currently looking for an open
> source library management package.
>
> The idea is also to load 'educational titles', thu
On Dec 10, 2007 2:16 PM, Ramakrishnan Sundaram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If internet access is not a given, what are the computers going to be
> used for? Do you have any apps in mind? Edubuntu comes bundled with
> several apps - XP does not. Would that itself be a deciding factor?
A primary p
On 10-Dec-07, at 2:05 PM, Gautam John wrote:
Amongst the suggestions, a common thread, barring Eugen, is ways and
methods to 'secure' XP. Surely Ubuntu would be a better bet? I was
rather hoping for arguments that I could use in favour of that. But, I
suppose, freedom of choice would mean giving
Gautam John said the following on 10/12/2007 12:35:
> their act together, each one will have an Internet connection.
> However, the latter is not a given.
...
> suppose, freedom of choice would mean giving the end user the ability
> to use XP or Ubuntu. Though I'm not sure we have the resources to
Thank you, all, for the suggestions.
As it stands, we will install one computer per library and if BSNL get
their act together, each one will have an Internet connection.
However, the latter is not a given.
Amongst the suggestions, a common thread, barring Eugen, is ways and
methods to 'secure' X
One fat (comparatively fat at least) box running xp, and multiple thin
clients running citrix winframe or similar. Or hell, wyse terminals running
X windows.
srs
On Dec 10, 2007 8:39 AM, Gautam John wrote:
> I'm currently working with a non-profit and as part of our work we run
> ~400 libraries across Bangalore and many more across the state. We are
> hopeful, if we find sponsors, of putting a computer in each library
> both to manage the library and as a t
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