[silk] ELIZA? That's my great-grandma...

2010-11-08 Thread Udhay Shankar N
forwarded from an ex-silklister. Programmer Nigel Leck got tired of dealing with climate-change denial, so he wrote a chatbot to respond with arguments drawn from a database: http://www.technologyreview.com/blog/mimssbits/25964/?ref=rss (It's not good at recognizing sarcasm, though.)

Re: [silk] ELIZA? That's my great-grandma...

2010-11-08 Thread Deepa Mohan
On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 7:51 PM, Udhay Shankar N ud...@pobox.com wrote: forwarded from an ex-silklister. Programmer Nigel Leck got tired of dealing with climate-change denial, so he wrote a chatbot to respond with arguments drawn from a database:

Re: [silk] ELIZA? That's my great-grandma...

2010-11-08 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Mon, Nov 08, 2010 at 08:05:11PM +0530, Deepa Mohan wrote: An assumption that a viewpoint opposed to yours is nonsense is, indeed, patronizing and flawed. The question is what cost is associated with both outcomes. Sometimes, the cost of keeping an open mind is just too high. (And I don't

Re: [silk] ELIZA? That's my great-grandma...

2010-11-08 Thread Sean Doyle
On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 9:35 AM, Deepa Mohan mohande...@gmail.com wrote: And I agree with all those comments down below, which point out what's wrong with the chatbot way of handling criticism, denial and negation. Agreed. I worry this will set off an arms race - the people that fund GW

Re: [silk] ELIZA? That's my great-grandma...

2010-11-08 Thread Deepa Mohan
On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 8:43 PM, Sean Doyle sdo...@gmail.com wrote:law - any sane comments or discussion will get overwhelmed by the bots. Instead of debates aided by what's bottled, we'll have bot-led debates

Re: [silk] ELIZA? That's my great-grandma...

2010-11-08 Thread Udhay Shankar N
On 08-Nov-10 8:05 PM, Deepa Mohan wrote: An assumption that a viewpoint opposed to yours is nonsense is, indeed, patronizing and flawed. How do you know that it's an assumption? Oh. Is this way of handling things better, in your opinion?

Re: [silk] ELIZA? That's my great-grandma...

2010-11-08 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Mon, Nov 08, 2010 at 10:13:57AM -0500, Sean Doyle wrote: Agreed. I worry this will set off an arms race - the people that fund GW deniers will now fund an army of chatbots. I'm sure there's an twitter version of Gresham's law - any sane comments or discussion will get overwhelmed by the

Re: [silk] ELIZA? That's my great-grandma...

2010-11-08 Thread Udhay Shankar N
On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 9:05 PM, Eugen Leitl eu...@leitl.org wrote: Warming? Is for the birds. Will at most kill a billion. What. An. Awesome. Quote. -- ((Udhay Shankar N)) ((udhay @ pobox.com)) ((www.digeratus.com))

Re: [silk] ELIZA? That's my great-grandma...

2010-11-08 Thread Sean Doyle
On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 10:43 AM, Udhay Shankar N ud...@pobox.com wrote: On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 9:05 PM, Eugen Leitl eu...@leitl.org wrote: Warming? Is for the birds. Will at most kill a billion. What. An. Awesome. Quote. I think Eugen is being too optimistic. We're already probably fried