Re: [silk] OpenMoko - Thoughts? (was Re: IPhone - Thoughts?)

2008-06-27 Thread Sirtaj Singh Kang
On Friday 27 June 2008, Aditya Chadha wrote: [snip] But why? Nokia bought Symbian and open-sourced it (http://www.informationweek.com/blog/main/archives/2008/06/nokia_takes_i ni.html). So, why not develop for that? I will admi that I have a strong bias here, but: The Symbian API is not

Re: [silk] OpenMoko - Thoughts?

2008-06-26 Thread Alok G. Singh
On 26 Jun 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, who in silk-list is going to buy it and post a review? There is an Indian distributor[1]. I have placed an order and they were quite cool about payment. They don't accept credit cards but they have offered to send me the phone as soon as they have it

Re: [silk] OpenMoko - Thoughts?

2008-06-26 Thread Ramakrishnan Sundaram
On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 11:46 AM, Alok G. Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is an Indian distributor[1]. I have placed an order and they were They describe the system as being Tri-bang GSM. I wonder if it uses all three bangs at once or sequentially. Ram

Re: [silk] OpenMoko - Thoughts?

2008-06-26 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Ramakrishnan Sundaram wrote: They describe the system as being Tri-bang GSM. I wonder if it uses all three bangs at once or sequentially. Ram More bang for your buck then.

Re: [silk] OpenMoko - Thoughts? (was Re: IPhone - Thoughts?)

2008-06-26 Thread Aditya Chadha
I broke down and bought GTA01, too many issues and the phone was pretty much unusable as a phone. They've changed over to using Qtopia now for the default interface though, and hopefully solved their GSM bugs but the whole process is very very design-by-committee and hence sucky. I hope FreeRunner

Re: [silk] OpenMoko - Thoughts? (was Re: IPhone - Thoughts?)

2008-06-25 Thread Thaths
On Mon, Jul 9, 2007 at 12:58 PM, Aditya Chadha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone seen/used one of the FIC 1973 / OpenMoko phones? It sounds like a very viable alternative to the closed apple/att hell. Looks like non-developer devices have started shipping:

Re: [silk] OpenMoko - Thoughts? (was Re: IPhone - Thoughts?)

2008-06-25 Thread Aditya Chadha
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 5:37 PM, Thaths [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Jul 9, 2007 at 12:58 PM, Aditya Chadha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone seen/used one of the FIC 1973 / OpenMoko phones? It sounds like a very viable alternative to the closed apple/att hell. Looks like non-developer

Re: [silk] OpenMoko - Thoughts?

2007-07-12 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Thu, Jul 12, 2007 at 08:36:49AM +0530, Venkat Mangudi wrote: Quite agree with you there. But what about small discrete functionally independent pieces collaborating on bluetooth, maybe? Except the camera, which could be attached to the keypad. A watch that displays caller id or calling

Re: [silk] OpenMoko - Thoughts?

2007-07-11 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Wed, Jul 11, 2007 at 10:39:31AM +0530, Kiran Jonnalagadda wrote: Could you elaborate? I presume camera adds design complexity and price. They wanted the basic design out of the door first, and maybe there will be enhanced models after. The camera is a significant deciding factor in any

Re: [silk] OpenMoko - Thoughts?

2007-07-11 Thread Alok G. Singh
On 11 Jul 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could you elaborate? I presume camera adds design complexity and price. They wanted the basic design out of the door first, and maybe there will be enhanced models after. I suppose that this was the 'business' reason why the camera wasn't included,

Re: [silk] OpenMoko - Thoughts?

2007-07-11 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Wed, Jul 11, 2007 at 03:14:26PM +0530, Alok G. Singh wrote: I suppose that this was the 'business' reason why the camera wasn't included, rather than Harald's unwillingness to have a camera. You can't see modern cameras. They're the size of a pencil eraser, and have a pinpick aperture.

Re: [silk] OpenMoko - Thoughts?

2007-07-11 Thread Venkat Mangudi
Eugen Leitl wrote: The better ones are good enough for family-type events and snapshots. You can't beat the law of optics, but I'm not going to lug a kg of glass, metal and electronics around, unless I'm on quest. Quite agree with you there. But what about small discrete functionally

Re: [silk] OpenMoko - Thoughts? (was Re: IPhone - Thoughts?)

2007-07-10 Thread Srini Ramakrishnan
OpenMoko and H.323 or SIP - now that's something. Cheeni On 7/10/07, Aditya Chadha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone seen/used one of the FIC 1973 / OpenMoko phones? It sounds like a very viable alternative to the closed apple/att hell. Cheers, Aditya On 7/9/07, VaibhaV Sharma [EMAIL

Re: [silk] OpenMoko - Thoughts? (was Re: IPhone - Thoughts?)

2007-07-10 Thread Aditya Chadha
On 7/10/07, Srini Ramakrishnan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OpenMoko and H.323 or SIP - now that's something. Cheeni No WiFi in v1 of the FIC1973 (GTA01), which limits VoIP capabilities... Still a nice phone to hack on. Apparently, the touchscreen is super-high rez - and you 'need to see it to

Re: [silk] OpenMoko - Thoughts? (was Re: IPhone - Thoughts?)

2007-07-10 Thread Gautam John
On 7/10/07, Aditya Chadha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No WiFi in v1 of the FIC1973 (GTA01), which limits VoIP capabilities And no camera either. Like the iPhone, I'll wait for version 2. -Gautam

Re: [silk] OpenMoko - Thoughts? (was Re: IPhone - Thoughts?)

2007-07-10 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Tue, Jul 10, 2007 at 01:48:38PM +0530, Gautam John wrote: On 7/10/07, Aditya Chadha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No WiFi in v1 of the FIC1973 (GTA01), which limits VoIP capabilities And no camera either. Like the iPhone, I'll wait for version 2. I'm also waiting for October. I'm also

Re: [silk] OpenMoko - Thoughts? (was Re: IPhone - Thoughts?)

2007-07-10 Thread Tim Bray
[BTW, hello all, been lurking for a while] It's not clear whether to hack on the phone you need to get the debug board and also not clear what kind of computer/OS combination you can plug that board into. So I sent OpenMoko a question a couple days ago. No answer yet. Agreed that this is a

Re: [silk] OpenMoko - Thoughts? (was Re: IPhone - Thoughts?)

2007-07-10 Thread Chris Kantarjiev
On 7/10/07, Aditya Chadha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No WiFi in v1 of the FIC1973 (GTA01), which limits VoIP capabilities And no camera either. Like the iPhone, I'll wait for version 2. And 2.5G cell radio, so it will be as slow as the iPhone access that people complain about. (And the

Re: [silk] OpenMoko - Thoughts? (was Re: IPhone - Thoughts?)

2007-07-10 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Tue, Jul 10, 2007 at 07:08:23AM -0700, Chris Kantarjiev wrote: And no camera either. Like the iPhone, I'll wait for version 2. I hope for a camera in v2. 2 MPixels would be nice. And 2.5G cell radio, so it will be as slow as the iPhone access that GSM is okay. EDGE would have been

Re: [silk] OpenMoko - Thoughts?

2007-07-10 Thread Alok G. Singh
On 10 Jul 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No WiFi in v1 of the FIC1973 (GTA01), which limits VoIP capabilities And no camera either. Like the iPhone, I'll wait for version 2. The camera is not going to be present in GTA02 either. Wi-Fi will, though. Harald Welte said that it was a concious

Re: [silk] OpenMoko - Thoughts?

2007-07-10 Thread Kiran Jonnalagadda
On 10-Jul-07, at 11:11 PM, Alok G. Singh wrote: The camera is not going to be present in GTA02 either. Wi-Fi will, though. Harald Welte said that it was a concious decision to omit the camera, and I sort of agree. Could you elaborate? The camera is a significant deciding factor in any phone

[silk] OpenMoko - Thoughts? (was Re: IPhone - Thoughts?)

2007-07-09 Thread Aditya Chadha
Has anyone seen/used one of the FIC 1973 / OpenMoko phones? It sounds like a very viable alternative to the closed apple/att hell. Cheers, Aditya On 7/9/07, VaibhaV Sharma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 7, 2007, at 1:36 AM, Srini Ramakrishnan wrote: Unlocking an iphone doesn't get you the