I enjoyed reading the responses to Vineet's original posting. I feel
that several responses got mixed with personal views on the sincerity
and reliability of an individual. Reneging on job offers is not
unique at either employee levels or even at senior levels of
management. If candidates a
On 5/20/06, Biju Chacko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
That has nothing to do with relationships -- it's simple professionalism.
Totally agreed.
On 19/05/06, Manish Jethani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Also, even in this competitive job market with so many options,
finding the right job is like finding the right life partner. It can
take several job switches before you end up at a place where you want
to spend the "rest of your life" (like
On 19/05/06, Vinayak Hegde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
The answer to the above question depend s on your view of the world.
Some people view taking up a job offer and working for an organisation as
a relationship. Others view it as an economic transaction. The organisation
pays me and I contribute
>> You don't have to love your job to do it right.on that note, here are some gems from BEK, my favorite New Yorker cartoonist"I just want to go home, crawl into bed, and do some more work."
"I'm looking for a position where I can slowly lose sight of what I originally set out to do with my life,
> The answer to the above question depend s on your view of the world.
> Some people view taking up a job offer and working for an
> organisation as
> a relationship. Others view it as an economic transaction. The
> organisation
> pays me and I contribute to the organisation's income. If you are i
Don't agree. One is free to evaluate all choices and choose what one
thinks is best - but once you accept a job offer it is a commitment and
a contract. It is extremely unprofessional ( and in my mind unethical)
to just not show up! And I don't believe that you have to "put up" with
someone just b
Manish Jethani wrote:
On 5/19/06, Suresh Ramasubramanian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Me, I'd prefer a relationship.
On that note (slightly digressing here):
http://kalyan.livejournal.com/172579.html
One night stands get real expensive if you want to get laid on anything
like a regular ba
I am not sure I understand. EVERY job I took was one I hoped to retire from. When the weight of adverse circumstances became too much, I had to retire from the fray and settle into a quiet corner for a while to lick my wounds. Now I have one where there is a prospect of spending ten years, but who
Vinayak Hegde wrote:
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| The answer to the above question depend s on your view of the
| world.
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Agree to your entire argument and I must add that one's view of
the world is driven by one's cultural background as well.
,
| (Though I believe the distinction in the categories i
On 5/19/06, Kiran Jonnalagadda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
My personal take on this is: if I find a company's management
unprofessional, I will work at fixing this and either bring it to an
acceptable level, or get fired for trying.
Much harder in practise (at least in my personal experience),
On 5/19/06, Suresh Ramasubramanian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Me, I'd prefer a relationship.
On that note (slightly digressing here):
http://kalyan.livejournal.com/172579.html
On 19-May-06, at 5:43 PM, Manish Jethani wrote:
I don't subscribe to the idea either. And I believe in personal honour
too. And I believe that being a desirable company to work for doesn't
give the company a license to be unprofessional either--but it happens
all the time.
If an employer cannot
Vinayak Hegde wrote:
The answer to the above question depend s on your view of the world.
Some people view taking up a job offer and working for an organisation as
a relationship. Others view it as an economic transaction. The organisation
pays me and I contribute to the organisation's income. If
On 5/19/06, Biju Chacko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 19/05/06, Manish Jethani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> few months, switch jobs on a whim, etc. It's very difficult to hire
> and retain good people in any business. Welcome to the real world.
What crap. I don't subscribe to the idea that bei
On 5/19/06, Biju Chacko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 19/05/06, Manish Jethani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> few months, switch jobs on a whim, etc. It's very difficult to hire
> and retain good people in any business. Welcome to the real world.
What crap. I don't subscribe to the idea that being
On 19/05/06, Manish Jethani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
few months, switch jobs on a whim, etc. It's very difficult to hire
and retain good people in any business. Welcome to the real world.
What crap. I don't subscribe to the idea that being a desirable
employee gives you a license to be unprof
On 5/16/06, Vinit Bhansali <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Oh, if you or your HR departments encounter a certain Ravi Gyani ... you
know what kind of job to offer him.
I wouldn't post the name on a public forum. I think it reflects more
poorly on your company than on the guy.
I'd take a less tech
Indrajit Gupta wrote:
As it happens, you are precisely right. 8 years ago was boom-time and
exactly similar conditions prevailed. then came the melt-down due to
9.11 and the dotcom bust. Suddenly techies were a dime a dozen. Many of
them sobered up. but new cohorts have joined or are joining ev
Keep in mind that a lot of people these days want to run their own
companies, and hence, they want to generate as much seed capital as
possible. If you come from that angle, it isn't worth bothering about
your reputation in the job market, because you are going to be out of
it
in a few years.
On 18/05/06 06:40 +0530, sastry wrote:
> On Wed May 17 2006 14:48, Carol Upadhya wrote:
> > This seems to be a common complaint these days, there was even a newspaper
> > article the other day. Is the job market so hot that people can afford to
> > just drop offers like this? Or is it only for a fe
>>Is it any wonder that people can pick up and drop jobs at will? I am
>>advising young medical graduates to seek a career in Infotech.
Hi Shiv,
As someone who has done that a while back I am not sure I would recommend
that to everyone. I am not sure how much of change has happened in India
wi
As it happens, you are precisely right. 8 years ago was boom-time and exactly similar conditions prevailed. then came the melt-down due to 9.11 and the dotcom bust. Suddenly techies were a dime a dozen. Many of them sobered up. but new cohorts have joined or are joining every year. Conditions swung
On Wed May 17 2006 14:48, Carol Upadhya wrote:
> This seems to be a common complaint these days, there was even a newspaper
> article the other day. Is the job market so hot that people can afford to
> just drop offers like this? Or is it only for a few hotshots?
Excuse me - but isn't this an old
Sheesh, this is a joke, right? We do staff augmentation (polite Americanish for body-shopping) at volumes of 15 to 20 a month for the Middle East market, and get 5 to 10 drop-outs every month. The market's so hot they can so afford to do this; there's always someone else desperate enough to mak
I wonder if something like this could start a blacklist against 'flaky'
techies (ie, name on a list, picked up by google, etc).
This seems to be a common complaint these days, there was even a newspaper
article the other day. Is the job market so hot that people can afford to
just drop offers li
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> For those who don't want to read above, basically ... I made a job offer
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> a programmer, he accepted over the phone, we spoke salary details and sent
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> work as he had taken up another offer and moved from Bangalore
Hey
guys,
Recently, I had to
go through one of the perfect "nightmare" scenarios when it comes to hiring in
Bangalore.
To get a sense of
the issue, you might want to read this entry on my blog first .. http://www.logic2go.com/index.php/archives/2006/04/09/
For those who don't
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