Re: CS>argyria & EIS

2006-03-17 Thread Marshall Dudley
OK, I see that. There is something really screwy about that page. First it lists the concentrations tested with a 1 ppm, 3 ppm, and 20 ppm, but then gives results for 3, 10 and 20. Second it lists Aspergillus niger as a test organism, but that does not show up in the results. Then the table, which

Re: CS>argyria & EIS

2006-03-17 Thread Ode Coyote
At 11:20 AM 3/16/2006 -0500, you wrote: But the question is, is it the same as making 5 ppm EIS. We know that as the ppm goes up the colloidal particle size goes up, Marshall Here we may distinguish between what's a law and a trend. The stronger you go, the harder it is to keep size down as

Re: CS>argyria & EIS

2006-03-17 Thread Ode Coyote
I think the 'real' question was, is that diluted down to 5 PPM stuff the same as the stuff originally made to 5 PPM? If I correctly follow the Ole Bob viewpoint on making EIS, it wouldn't be. It would still be the 10 PPM EIS with 10 PPM EIS properties, only weaker. Ode At 08:01 AM 3/16/2006

Re: CS>argyria & EIS

2006-03-16 Thread aKa Jhon
great,, thanks... - Original Message - From: Robert Berger To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 11:01 AM Subject: Re: CS>argyria & EIS Absolutely !!! Take one unit of 10 PPM EIS and add one unit of DW and you have 5 PPM EIS. "Ole Bob&

Re: CS>argyria & EIS

2006-03-16 Thread Robert Berger
Marshall, you did not read far enough down the page. Here is the quote from: "HOW TO READ THIS LAB TEST" "The results show and compare how much each test organism was reduced in each product (3,10,20 and 1.0%) in a 24 hour period." "Starting with approximately a 750,000 popula

Re: CS>argyria & EIS

2006-03-16 Thread Marshall Dudley
sol wrote: > Marshall, > Interesting too that for two of the organisms tested, 20 ppm was more > effective than 10 ppm. What company did the tests results you posted? The one Bob said to look at: Hawkeye-Jensen Here is another url with the same test: http://www.healthgoodies.com/article_lab_tes

Re: CS>argyria & EIS

2006-03-16 Thread sol
Marshall, Interesting too that for two of the organisms tested, 20 ppm was more effective than 10 ppm. What company did the tests results you posted? Last time low ppm was discussed here, I tried it, but soon went back to my regular 10-15 ppm. The 3-5 ppm and up to even 8 ppm or so range just

Re: CS>argyria & EIS

2006-03-16 Thread Marshall Dudley
Robert Berger wrote: > I suggested that you visit Hawkeye-Jensen,Inc. on google and look at > the in vitro test data. They made 20 PPM EIS and diluted it to 10 > PPM, 3 PPM, and 1 PPM. They did not publish the 1PPM data as they > sell 3PPM material. There is reason to believe that the 1 PPM was

Re: CS>argyria & EIS

2006-03-16 Thread sol
I could only find tests on some kind of cream, using CS as the preservative. Is that what you are referring to? sol Robert Berger wrote: I suggested that you visit Hawkeye-Jensen,Inc. on google and look at the in vitro test data. They made 20 PPM EIS and diluted it to 10 PPM, 3 PPM, and 1 PP

Re: CS>argyria & EIS

2006-03-16 Thread Robert Berger
I suggested that you visit Hawkeye-Jensen,Inc. on google and look at the in vitro test data. They made 20 PPM EIS and diluted it to 10 PPM, 3 PPM, and 1 PPM. They did not publish the 1PPM data as they sell 3PPM material. There is reason to believe that the 1 PPM was superior to the 3 ppm.

Re: CS>argyria & EIS

2006-03-16 Thread Marshall Dudley
But the question is, is it the same as making 5 ppm EIS. We know that as the ppm goes up the colloidal particle size goes up, and if you dilute, the particle size does not change. My guess is that if you do a straight dilution, what you end up with is not as good as if you make it 5 ppm to start

Re: CS>argyria & EIS

2006-03-16 Thread Robert Berger
Absolutely !!! Take one unit of 10 PPM EIS and add one unit of DW and you have 5 PPM EIS. "Ole Bob" aKa Jhon wrote: can you dilute 10% C/S to make 3-5%???

Re: CS>argyria & EIS

2006-03-16 Thread aKa Jhon
can you dilute 10% C/S to make 3-5%??? - Original Message - From: Robert Berger To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 11:21 AM Subject: RE: CS>argyria & EIS Listers, It is common belief anomg us that if little is good then more is better. THAT

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2006-03-15 Thread Jim Holmes
I keep hearing this stuff. Time to look into it. Bookmarked and appreciated. Jim -Original Message- From: V [mailto:vzo...@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 12:13 AM To: Charles Sutton Subject: ***Possible Spam*** Re: CS>argyria & EIS In some places they let the me

Re: CS>argyria & EIS

2006-03-15 Thread Charles Sutton
after the 10 minutes were up; no odor at all. - Original Message - From: "Craig C Chamberlin" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 9:02 PM Subject: Re: CS>argyria & EIS > Hi Charles, > > > from a run. It was turning very dark, and didn't smell good

Re: CS>argyria & EIS

2006-03-15 Thread Stuff
so as to be sure the spray job is what worked... - Original Message - From: "EmoTap" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 9:11 AM Subject: Re: CS>argyria & EIS > Deb, > That's the same reason I use to spray myself everyday, too!!! Think it will > have the same

Re: CS>argyria & EIS

2006-03-14 Thread V
he spray job is what worked... > - Original Message - > From: "EmoTap" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 9:11 AM Subject: Re: CS>>argyria & EIS >> Deb, >> That's the same reason I use to spray myself everyday, too!!! Think it > w

Re: CS>argyria & EIS

2006-03-14 Thread Deborah Gerard
I'm with you sister:) EmoTap wrote: Deb, That's the same reason I use to spray myself everyday, too!!! Think it will have the same effect. :-)) Sash ---Original Message--- From: Deborah Gerard Date: 03/13/06 18:57:29 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>

Re: CS>argyria & EIS

2006-03-14 Thread Craig C Chamberlin
Hi Charles, from a run. It was turning very dark, and didn't smell good. At today's How did it smell after the CS was applied? Craig <>

Re: CS>argyria & EIS

2006-03-14 Thread Charles Sutton
d my usual seasonings and cooked it in the George Foreman..delicious, and no tummy ache! I was going to ingest some cs too but didn't so as to be sure the spray job is what worked... - Original Message - From: "EmoTap" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 9:11 AM Subj

Re: CS>argyria & EIS

2006-03-14 Thread Stuff
yday, too!!! Think it will have the same effect. :-)) Sash ---Original Message--- From: Deborah Gerard Date: 03/13/06 18:57:29 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>argyria & EIS You know I noticed that when I spray my grapes with cs and put them in the refrigerator they last twice as l

RE: CS>argyria & EIS

2006-03-14 Thread Stuff
I wonder why the 1ppm test results were left out... http://www.se1.us/health/colloidal-silver/test3.html stuff At 10:21 AM 3/13/2006, Ole Bob wrote: Listers, It is common belief anomg us that if little is good then more is better. THAT IS ONE BIG LIE Go to google and search for Haw

Re: CS>argyria & EIS

2006-03-14 Thread EmoTap
Deb, That's the same reason I use to spray myself everyday, too!!! Think it will have the same effect. :-)) Sash ---Original Message--- From: Deborah Gerard Date: 03/13/06 18:57:29 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>argyria & EIS You know I noticed that

RE: CS>argyria & EIS

2006-03-13 Thread Jim Holmes
Thank you. I have an audience of several hundred. -Original Message- From: Robert Berger [mailto:bober...@swbell.net] Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 2:37 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CS>argyria & EIS Go right ahead !!! "Ole Bob" Jim Holmes wro

Re: CS>argyria & EIS: COMMENT

2006-03-13 Thread Brooks Bradley
rt Berger" > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Subject: Re: CS>argyria & EIS > Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 17:00:51 -0800 (PST) > > > You will have more success with the 1/3 EIS, 2/3 gatorade, using > about 3 ounces every 2 hours. You don't need 10 PPM EIS a

Re: CS>argyria & EIS

2006-03-13 Thread Deborah Gerard
You know I noticed that when I spray my grapes with cs and put them in the refrigerator they last twice as long...deb Gunar wrote: - Original Message - From: Robert Berger To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 3:21 AM Subject: RE: CS>argy

Re: CS>argyria & EIS

2006-03-13 Thread Robert Berger
You will have more success with the 1/3 EIS, 2/3 gatorade, using about 3 ounces every 2 hours. You don't need 10 PPM EIS a 5 PPM level is more than adequate. "Ole Bob" gmetrop...@aol.com wrote: I have been consistantly told that for chronic disease one needs to consume up to 20oz./d

Re: CS>argyria & EIS

2006-03-13 Thread GMetropulo
I have been consistantly told that for chronic disease one needs to consume up to 20oz./d of CS to allow enough saturation in the tissues. Do you disagree? What amount do you believe is paramount when making it at home?

RE: CS>argyria & EIS

2006-03-13 Thread Robert Berger
To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CS>argyria & EIS Listers, It is common belief anomg us that if little is good then more is better. THAT IS ONE BIG LIE Go to google and search for Hawkeye Jensen, inc, and read their report. 3 PPM is far super

Re: CS>argyria & EIS

2006-03-13 Thread Gunar
- Original Message - From: Robert Berger To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 3:21 AM Subject: RE: CS>argyria & EIS Listers, It is common belief anomg us that if little is good then more is better. THAT IS ONE BIG LIE Go to goo

RE: CS>argyria & EIS

2006-03-13 Thread Jim Holmes
Bob, May I have your permission to post this mail to another forum? TIA, Jim -Original Message- From: Robert Berger [mailto:bober...@swbell.net] Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 9:21 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CS>argyria & EIS Listers, It is

RE: CS>argyria & EIS

2006-03-13 Thread Robert Berger
Listers, It is common belief anomg us that if little is good then more is better. THAT IS ONE BIG LIE Go to google and search for Hawkeye Jensen, inc, and read their report. 3 PPM is far superior 10 ppm and 20 ppm, as shown in their in vitro testing. I have mentioned se