Re: CS>solubility of silver oxide?

2010-12-21 Thread David AuBuchon
But needs some lab setup for "explosive" safety. Then again, also very portable. ~David On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 11:03 AM, Dan Nave wrote: > So, if it does work, it would be about 3 to 4 times as expensive in > silver costs as making it with electrolysis. > But maybe a lot quicker and with more

Re: CS>solubility of silver oxide?

2010-12-21 Thread Dan Nave
So, if it does work, it would be about 3 to 4 times as expensive in silver costs as making it with electrolysis. But maybe a lot quicker and with more certainty in the outcome (no need to understand and characterize the specifics of electrode size, current, container shape, etc). Dan On Tue, Dec

Re: CS>solubility of silver oxide?

2010-12-21 Thread Marshall Dudley
Silver oxide can be purchased from several places, such as Salt Lake Metals for around $75 to $100 an ounce. Marshall On 12/20/2010 10:19 PM, Dan Nave wrote: Several years ago when Marshall was talking about silver oxide, silver hydroxide, and H2O2, I suggested that we could take enough silver

Re: CS>solubility of silver oxide?

2010-12-21 Thread Marshall Dudley
That is correct, and additional silver can combine with CO2 and produce silver carbonate as well. Marshall On 12/20/2010 7:11 PM, David AuBuchon wrote: Also, when we say that that in theory, EIS can reach a PPM of 26, don't we actually mean: "In theory the PPM of dissolved silver ions can rea

Re: CS>solubility of silver oxide?

2010-12-20 Thread David AuBuchon
An interesting note is that Frank Key has some kill studies that used mesosilver at both 20PPM and 75PPM: http://www.silver-colloids.com/Pubs/biostudies.html I wonder how the particle size and ratio differ. Ya, Karl has a website where he offers to sell samples of high density colloidal silver (

Re: CS>solubility of silver oxide?

2010-12-20 Thread Dan Nave
Yes, I recognize Karl's name. He is very extreme and is into uncontrolled, massively high ppm silver products and uses large amounts of peroxide as well. I had in mind a more moderate amount of Hydrogen Peroxide and a known amount of silver oxide in order to make something equivalent to our CS or

Re: CS>solubility of silver oxide?

2010-12-20 Thread David AuBuchon
Hi Neville, I think PPM might mean whatever you define it to mean. I was trying to invent a term that accounts for the mass of silver in just the ionic form. So say for example silver oxide has solubility of 26 mg/liter. Then in theory the "soluble Ag content" of EIS can reach 26 mg/liter. In

Re: CS>solubility of silver oxide?

2010-12-20 Thread David AuBuchon
Hi Dan, Funny, I ran into this post on a totally dead CS forum, that I think describes how to do exactly what you are talking about. It sounds like the guys done it before. I bet lots of folk here recognize the name of the poster. He says to save the sludge from your CS cathode and add peroxide

RE: CS>solubility of silver oxide?

2010-12-20 Thread Neville Munn
e total amount of Ag present in both ionic and particulate form in that solution would it not? N. > Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2010 16:11:29 -0800 > Subject: Re: CS>solubility of silver oxide? > From: aubuchon.da...@gmail.com > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Also, when we say that

Re: CS>solubility of silver oxide?

2010-12-20 Thread Dan Nave
Several years ago when Marshall was talking about silver oxide, silver hydroxide, and H2O2, I suggested that we could take enough silver oxide by weight mixed with distilled water to make about 25ppm solution and combine them with some H2O2. If his theories were correct it should make colloidal si

Re: CS>solubility of silver oxide?

2010-12-20 Thread David AuBuchon
Also, when we say that that in theory, EIS can reach a PPM of 26, don't we actually mean: "In theory the PPM of dissolved silver ions can reach 26PPM, and there may be some additional PPM contributed by particles of silver, so in theory EIS can reach slightly more than 26 PPM." ? Thanks, ~David

CS>solubility of silver oxide?

2010-12-20 Thread David AuBuchon
Wikipedia lists the solubility of silver oxide as 25PPM. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silver_oxide I am wondering how this reconciles with talk on this list of silver hydroxide and silver oxide each having a solubility of about 13ppm, for a total of 26PPM (roughly the same as 25PPM?). I wonder if