At 03:12 PM 2/10/2006, you wrote:
Among other things, the process creates Vitamin C and
Vitamin B12 - especially the latter is interesting because
there are no other plant sources for it.
Heidrun:
Comfrey is the only land plant known to derive and store
Vitamin B-12 from the soil. It also has
On Tue, 14 Feb 2006 14:46:03 -0500, hj wrote in
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At 03:12 PM 2/10/2006, you wrote:
Among other things, the process creates Vitamin C and
Vitamin B12 - especially the latter is interesting because
there are no other plant sources for it.
Heidrun:
Commercially sold Kefir does not contain all the ingredients of natural
Kefir. I believe it is the yeasts which are not present. Kefir grains
are colonies of bacteria and yeasts. Even the commercially sold Kefir
making starters do not contain the complete range of organisms and will
not
So what IS soured and clabbered milk, if not spoiled???
I wouldn`t drink it that way, do you?
Marshalee
Raw milk do not spoils. It will clabber and sour but not spoil.
Barbara
Barbara:
Raw milk do not spoils. It will clabber and sour but not spoil.
Marshalee:
So what IS soured and clabbered milk, if not spoiled???
I wouldn`t drink it that way, do you?
Nenah:
It has to do with the types of bacteria that are in the food. Just as there is
friendly bacteria in your
Soured and clabbered milk is even MORE healthful than fresh milk. It is choke
full of health repairing bacteria, enzymes, vitamins and minerals. In fact,
ALL lacto-fermented foods like veggies, fruits and juices are giving longevity
to people who are smart enough to incorporate them in their
On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 12:10:57 -0500, Nenah Sylver wrote in
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Barbara:
Raw milk do not spoils. It will clabber and sour but not spoil.
Marshalee:
So what IS soured and clabbered milk, if not spoiled???
I wouldn`t drink it that way, do you?
Nenah:
Yes, of course you are right Nenah. I was talking about fresh milk that will
sour and ferment into beneficial yogurt or kefir.
Someone was talking about keeping kefir in fridge for weeks and it was still
good to eat.
There is fundamental diffrence between store bought, pasteurized and
Choke is right...Yecch.
(I think you meant chock...)
No, I don`t touch sour cream, never have and never will, but I do eat some
yogurt occasionally
but only if it has fruit and sugar.
Healthful or not, I`m not touching rotten milk.
So I die sooner, who cares?!
BTW, how can fruits
To each his/her own.
Barbara
Choke is right...Yecch.
(I think you meant chock...)
No, I don`t touch sour cream, never have and never will, but I do eat some
yogurt occasionally
but only if it has fruit and sugar.
Healthful or not, I`m not touching rotten milk.
So I
On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 11:47:21 -0700, Marshalee Hallett wrote in
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BTW, how can fruits or veggies be lacto-fermented???
They are shredded, compacted, and then sealed against oxygen.
Stored first around 20 degree Celsius, later the temperature
can
...Someone was talking about keeping
kefir in fridge for weeks and it was still good to eat.
Yes. That is true. The flavor does get stronger over
time, however, and I like to dilute it down a bit with fresh just before
drinking. And if there are bits of kefir grains in the
refrigerated kefir,
i BUY KEFIR FROM THE GROCERY STORE. WILL IT CONTINUE TO GROW?
THANKS
MARY
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...Someone was talking about keeping
kefir in fridge for weeks and it was still good to eat.
Yes. That is
I like sour cream but does the process they put it thru take out alot of the
benefit's?...debbie
Barbara barba...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: Soured and clabbered milk is
even MORE healthful than fresh milk. It is choke full of health repairing
bacteria, enzymes, vitamins and minerals.
Yes, most of the benefits are taken out by the commercial prosessing,
especially by ultra pasteurizing.
OTOH, raw sweet cream or raw sour cream are very healthy because they are
mostly saturated, animal fat.
Barbara
I like sour cream but does the process they put it thru take out
i BUY KEFIR FROM THE GROCERY STORE. WILL IT CONTINUE TO GROW?
THANKS
MARY
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I don't think commercial kefir will grow. In fact, even buying
kefir starter from sources such as Dr. Mercola only allows
you to make about 6 batches of kefir before it is exhausted, as I
understand. You
the raw milk and sweet cream sound yummie to me...
Barbara barba...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: Yes, most of the benefits
are taken out by the commercial prosessing, especially by ultra pasteurizing.
OTOH, raw sweet cream or raw sour cream are very healthy because they are
mostly
Hi:
We are looking into buying raw whole milk from a licensed dairy. But
there is still that little bit of concern that we have been
conditioned to have about possible harmful bacteria in the milk. I
have looked into this and find that this is VERY unlikely nowadays -
pasteurization was
Hi, Del!
I buy raw milk here in California to make kefir. The kefir grains also
work in regular pasteurized milk, but I prefer the raw to have the product
be as natural as possible, just as it was made by the people who live in
cultures where there is major dependence upon it.
I found I
Ummmthe raw, unadulterated milk has lots of living enzymes
and living, beneficial bacteria and that is what makes the raw
milk so healthful. Killing all bacteria with CS is counterproductive.
Also, the bacteria in milk kills pathogenic bacteria within only
24 hours. Raw milk do not
*twinkle* Barbara!
Susan
Barbara barba...@tampabay.rr.com wrote:
Ummmthe raw, unadulterated milk has lots of living enzymes
and living, beneficial bacteria and that is what makes the raw
milk so healthful. Killing all bacteria with CS is counterproductive.
Also, the
LOL...
Barbara
*twinkle* Barbara!
Susan
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