Re: [Simh] running on Debian

2016-03-04 Thread Bailey, Scott
I agree with everything Mark said. (Particularly installing libpcap-dev...) I'm running a simh VAX 8650 on Debian stretch (although nothing has changed appreciably of late except maybe systemd); here are some additional operational notes that you might or might not find useful -- these are about

Re: [Simh] running on Debian

2016-03-04 Thread Bailey, Scott
Sigh. No matter how many times I re-read before sending, it doesn't matter. Let me expand on this: >1. in /etc/rc.local, I have this snippet to make sure the network tap device >I >need is ready to go: > >if ! ip link show tap0 ; then > tunctl -t tap0 > ifconfig tap0 up > brctl addif br0 tap0

Re: [Simh] running on Debian

2016-03-04 Thread Mark Pizzolato
Joshua, PLEASE consider Scott's configuration as advanced configuration details that you may want to deploy when you are polishing up what you're putting together. DO NOT start with this stuff. Start with basic pcap networking and migrate your existing system environment to a simh instance and

Re: [Simh] running on Debian

2016-03-04 Thread Peter Svensson
I have always found the tap+bridge style easier than pcap. It works just as you would expect a separate computer to work. With pcap I was never sure what happened when talking to the local computer. Bridged virtual interfaces is what you use for other virtual machines, why not simh? Peter

Re: [Simh] running on Debian

2016-03-04 Thread Mark Pizzolato
> I have always found the tap+bridge style easier than pcap. It works just > as you would expect a separate computer to work. Once you’ve got the network structure setup the simh commands are certainly simple and it works (at least for Wired Ethernet). > With pcap I was never sure what happened

Re: [Simh] running on Debian

2016-03-04 Thread Johnny Billquist
Wait, so you think it's easier to have to setup the bridge, and all associated activities to that, and then setup the interface in simh, compared to just setup the interface in simh? How do you figure that? Johnny On 2016-03-04 18:10, Peter Svensson wrote: I have always found the tap

Re: [Simh] running on Debian

2016-03-04 Thread Rhialto
On Fri 04 Mar 2016 at 18:10:18 +0100, Peter Svensson wrote: > Bridged virtual interfaces is what you use for other virtual machines, > why not simh? Linux has the EXTREME annoyance that once you connect an interface to a bridge, it stops being usable as an "internet endpoint". In other words, your

Re: [Simh] running on Debian

2016-03-04 Thread Paul Koning
> On Mar 4, 2016, at 1:41 PM, Rhialto wrote: > > On Fri 04 Mar 2016 at 18:10:18 +0100, Peter Svensson wrote: >> Bridged virtual interfaces is what you use for other virtual machines, >> why not simh? > > Linux has the EXTREME annoyance that once you connect an interface to a > bridge, it stops

Re: [Simh] running on Debian

2016-03-04 Thread Peter Svensson
Hi, I am a networking guy and the Linux way seems more natural to me. First there is a bridge. That bridge bridges some interfaces, one of which may be the local os. Nowadays it is all VMs anyway, and all interfaces are bridges to connect /disconnect the VMs on the fly. Same as simh. I ha