[Sip-implementors] TMMBR flow control

2009-05-11 Thread Ashwin Kumar
Hi! I want to know if any one implemented TMMBR flow control support (RFC 5104) ? Any clients available with this support ? How do you calculate over-head value(if RTP is considered as reference protocol layer, then can we use 40 bytes by default )? -- -Ashwin. _

[Sip-implementors] 487 after BYE on early dialog

2009-05-11 Thread Damir Reic
Hi all, another question... If UAS receives BYE on early dialog and answers it with 200OK, does it have to respond to initial invite with 487 (same as CANCEL was received)? regards, Damir ___ Sip-implementors mailing list Sip-implementors@lists.cs.colum

[Sip-implementors] MIRIAL SIP CLIENT

2009-05-11 Thread sarvpriya
HI, Can you please tell does MIRIAL support sending of INFO message? If yes then how? -- cheers sarvpriya ___ Sip-implementors mailing list Sip-implementors@lists.cs.columbia.edu https://lists.cs.columbia.edu/cucslists/listinfo/sip-implementors

Re: [Sip-implementors] Display-Name in presence notifications

2009-05-11 Thread Vikram Chhibber
This information can be carried in PIDF by means of XCAP or SIP protocol. Information that is more of a characteristics of a person as per RFC 4479, large in size and does not change with time is most likely to be updated and distributed using XCAP mechanism. See also RFC 4483. For example: >>The u

Re: [Sip-implementors] Early dialog can be replaced if TransferTarget is the reciepient of dialog (early) during Attendant Call Transfer

2009-05-11 Thread Iñaki Baz Castillo
El Lunes, 11 de Mayo de 2009, Dale Worley escribió: > Since the intention is to free the phone's user from dealing with the > call, any "lines" that show on the phone's user interface can be > released immediately. Of course, the phone software will still have to > handle the signaling of these ca

Re: [Sip-implementors] Early dialog can be replaced if TransferTarget is the reciepient of dialog (early) during Attendant Call Transfer

2009-05-11 Thread Dale Worley
On Mon, 2009-05-11 at 23:06 +0200, Iñaki Baz Castillo wrote: > > In practice, the solution is for the user agent to perform the transfer > > in the background by doing nothing until the new call leg is answered, > > and then sending the REFER that completes the transfer. (This has been > > underst

Re: [Sip-implementors] Question about CALL-ID in Pararell search

2009-05-11 Thread Dale Worley
On Mon, 2009-05-11 at 18:32 +0200, Francisco José Méndez Cirera wrote: > A question about the CALL-ID. > > 1. UAC sends an INVITE request to Redirect Server with CALL-ID: abc. > 2. Redirect server sends response "300 Multiples Choices". > 3. UAC makes a pararell search sending three IN

Re: [Sip-implementors] Can we send REFER in side a dialog?

2009-05-11 Thread Dale Worley
On Mon, 2009-05-11 at 12:38 +0530, Krishna Rao Gurram wrote: > Hi, > > <-- INVITE > 100 --> > 180 --> > 200 OK ->> > <-- ACK > <---REFER (with in the dialog same from tag, To tag and the call-id) > > can we send the the above REFER? > > (if the above REFER is out side dialog it is OK.) The abov

Re: [Sip-implementors] Early dialog can be replaced if TransferTarget is the reciepient of dialog (early) during Attendant Call Transfer

2009-05-11 Thread Iñaki Baz Castillo
El Lunes, 11 de Mayo de 2009, Dale Worley escribió: > On Sat, 2009-05-09 at 10:05 +0530, Vivek Batra wrote: > > Moreover, does this mean that an Operator initiating Attended Transfer > > cannot free-up herself since the transfer target is not responding? > > This would be very taxing in practical w

[Sip-implementors] Display-Name in presence notifications

2009-05-11 Thread Iñaki Baz Castillo
Hi, in XMPP and other protocols (MSN, Yahoo), when Alice subscribes to the presence status of Bob, it receives not just the presence status, but more data like a custom/funny display-name set by Bob ("super-boby·), a photo, some custom test ("I'm crazy!!!") and so on. I already know that the xt

Re: [Sip-implementors] Early dialog can be replaced if TransferTarget is the reciepient of dialog (early) during Attendant Call Transfer

2009-05-11 Thread Dale Worley
On Sat, 2009-05-09 at 10:05 +0530, Vivek Batra wrote: > Moreover, does this mean that an Operator initiating Attended Transfer > cannot free-up herself since the transfer target is not responding? > This would be very taxing in practical world because most of the > times, the Operator wishes to exe

Re: [Sip-implementors] Question about CALL-ID in Pararell search

2009-05-11 Thread MendeZirerA
El 11/05/2009, a las 18:56, "Scott Lawrence" escribió: > On Mon, 2009-05-11 at 18:32 +0200, Francisco José Méndez Cirera wrot > e: >> A question about the CALL-ID. >> >>1. UAC sends an INVITE request to Redirect Server with CALL-ID: >> abc. >>2. Redirect server sends response "300

Re: [Sip-implementors] Question about CALL-ID in Pararell search

2009-05-11 Thread Scott Lawrence
On Mon, 2009-05-11 at 18:32 +0200, Francisco José Méndez Cirera wrote: > A question about the CALL-ID. > > 1. UAC sends an INVITE request to Redirect Server with CALL-ID: abc. > 2. Redirect server sends response "300 Multiples Choices". > 3. UAC makes a pararell search sending three IN

[Sip-implementors] Question about CALL-ID in Pararell search

2009-05-11 Thread Francisco José Méndez Cirera
A question about the CALL-ID. 1. UAC sends an INVITE request to Redirect Server with CALL-ID: abc. 2. Redirect server sends response "300 Multiples Choices". 3. UAC makes a pararell search sending three INVITES with CALL-ID: ¿abc?. I dont understand why first INVITE and three last INV

Re: [Sip-implementors] Non-INVITE transaction

2009-05-11 Thread Brett Tate
It is an abnormal situation since device indicated a unique branch transaction ID when it wasn't actually unique. Thus the UAS can basically act however it wants. Processing it as a new transaction for the new call is likely best; however doing so requires a little more intelligence to handle

Re: [Sip-implementors] B2BUA release

2009-05-11 Thread Brett Tate
Sounds okay; however the CANCEL is typically still needed to cancel the INVITE (when appropriate) since the BYE received on early dialog isn't adequate to communicate/trigger cancellation of INVITE. The lack of CANCEL can trigger useless forking by proxy/b2bua upon receiving INVITE 487 (or othe

Re: [Sip-implementors] B2BUA release

2009-05-11 Thread BONNAERENS Ben
Hello, Don't forget CANCEL is hop by hop while BYE is end to end. In a BYE, a Reason header, a body, proprietary information, etc can be passed to the UAS. Best regards, Ben. > -Original Message- > From: sip-implementors-boun...@lists.cs.columbia.edu > [mailto:sip-implementors-boun.

[Sip-implementors] Non-INVITE transaction

2009-05-11 Thread soma bhargava
Hi All, Please consider the following scenario 1. A call has been established between two user agents. 2. A mid dialog non-INVITE transaction has been processed. 3. The call is been terminated. 4. A new call is established. 5. Now a new non-INVITE request has been sent within 32 secs with branch

Re: [Sip-implementors] B2BUA release

2009-05-11 Thread Brett Tate
> It is valid to send BYE on early dialog. > I just can't imagine myself why it is configurable on this B2BUA > to send BYE on early dialogs when it wants to terminate the call > (there is no one at incoming side). I don't see the purpose of it. It is likely best to ask the vendor of the B2BUA s

Re: [Sip-implementors] B2BUA release

2009-05-11 Thread Damir Reic
Hi Inaki, It is valid to send BYE on early dialog. I just can't imagine myself why it is configurable on this B2BUA to send BYE on early dialogs when it wants to terminate the call (there is no one at incoming side). I don't see the purpose of it. regards, Damir --- On *Mon, 5/11/09, Iñaki Baz C

Re: [Sip-implementors] B2BUA release

2009-05-11 Thread Damir Reic
Hi, ... >Could you name B2bua who sends BYE in early dialogs ? Sorry, I prefer not. regards, Damir -Original Message- From: sip-implementors-boun...@lists.cs.columbia.edu [mailto:sip-implementors-boun...@lists.cs.columbia.edu] On Behalf Of Damir Reic Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 4:20 PM

Re: [Sip-implementors] B2BUA release

2009-05-11 Thread Alex Balashov
Jesus Rodriguez wrote: > Is valid to send a BYE (by caller) for early dialogs: > > RFC3261, Section 15: "The caller’s UA MAY send a BYE for either > confirmed or early dialogs, and the callee’s UA MAY send a BYE on > confirmed dialogs, but MUST NOT send a BYE on early dialogs." Aha. I was not

Re: [Sip-implementors] Low cost VOIP Phone,Gateway

2009-05-11 Thread Iñaki Baz Castillo
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Re: [Sip-implementors] B2BUA release

2009-05-11 Thread Iñaki Baz Castillo
2009/5/11 Alex Balashov : > > > Damir Reic wrote: > >> This is the question I'm asking because I've seen this B2BUA that actually >> has a configurable option to send BYE or CANCEL on early dialogs and I don't >> see any reasons for it. If someone does, please explain. > > AFAIK, that's not RFC-com

Re: [Sip-implementors] B2BUA release

2009-05-11 Thread Jesus Rodriguez
Hello, > Damir Reic wrote: > >> This is the question I'm asking because I've seen this B2BUA that >> actually >> has a configurable option to send BYE or CANCEL on early dialogs >> and I don't >> see any reasons for it. If someone does, please explain. > > AFAIK, that's not RFC-compliant, and,

Re: [Sip-implementors] B2BUA release

2009-05-11 Thread Rastogi, Vipul (Vipul)
This is the question I'm asking because I've seen this B2BUA that actually has a configurable option to send BYE or CANCEL on early dialogs and I don't see any reasons for it. If someone does, please explain. > CANCEL is only solution here. In case, B2BUA receives 200 OK before it could send CANCEL

Re: [Sip-implementors] B2BUA release

2009-05-11 Thread Alex Balashov
Damir Reic wrote: > This is the question I'm asking because I've seen this B2BUA that actually > has a configurable option to send BYE or CANCEL on early dialogs and I don't > see any reasons for it. If someone does, please explain. AFAIK, that's not RFC-compliant, and, like you said, CANCEL is

[Sip-implementors] B2BUA release

2009-05-11 Thread Damir Reic
Hi all, a question from B2BUA perspective. If on incoming side release is started (not necessarily SIP on incoming side) and on outgoing SIP side we have established several early dialogs (no confirmed), is there any sense to send BYE for each of these dialogs? For me it is not. I believe CANCEL

Re: [Sip-implementors] Can we send REFER in side a dialog?

2009-05-11 Thread Iñaki Baz Castillo
2009/5/11 Rastogi, Vipul (Vipul) : > (if the above REFER is out side dialog it is OK.) >> At places I have seen Out Of Dialog REFER also (to support 3rd party It's is standar (even if most of the phones don't allow initial REFER). Unfortunately, more dirty solutions (as 3CPP) are used. -- Iñaki B

Re: [Sip-implementors] Can we send REFER in side a dialog?

2009-05-11 Thread Rastogi, Vipul (Vipul)
-Original Message- From: sip-implementors-boun...@lists.cs.columbia.edu [mailto:sip-implementors-boun...@lists.cs.columbia.edu] On Behalf Of Krishna Rao Gurram Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 12:39 PM To: sip-implementors@lists.cs.columbia.edu Subject: [Sip-implementors] Can we send REFER i

[Sip-implementors] Can we send REFER in side a dialog?

2009-05-11 Thread Krishna Rao Gurram
Hi, <-- INVITE 100 --> 180 --> 200 OK ->> <-- ACK <---REFER (with in the dialog same from tag, To tag and the call-id) can we send the the above REFER? (if the above REFER is out side dialog it is OK.) Regards, Krishna.. "DISCLAIMER: This message is proprietary to Aricent and is intended solel