Re: [Sip-implementors] Questions on Presence

2009-06-10 Thread kishore sowdi
I have one more question -  "how to tell the presence server that UE does'nt want presence server to send NOTIFY's and how to start receiving NOTIFY's after this?" Any XCAP rf for this ?..  Can we achive all these using SIP PUBLISH ? --- On Wed, 10/6/09, Iñaki Baz Castillo wrote: From: Iñaki Baz

Re: [Sip-implementors] Indicating "Call Waiting" in a 1XX response

2009-06-10 Thread Iñaki Baz Castillo
El Jueves, 11 de Junio de 2009, Paul Kyzivat escribió: > Iñaki Baz Castillo wrote: > > El Miércoles, 10 de Junio de 2009, Paul Kyzivat escribió: > >> Actually, *in theory*, you can put Accept-Language:es into your INVITE, > >> and then the text messages in the response ought to be written in > >> S

Re: [Sip-implementors] Indicating "Call Waiting" in a 1XX response

2009-06-10 Thread Paul Kyzivat
Iñaki Baz Castillo wrote: > El Miércoles, 10 de Junio de 2009, Paul Kyzivat escribió: > >> Actually, *in theory*, you can put Accept-Language:es into your INVITE, >> and then the text messages in the response ought to be written in Spanish. >> >> (And of course everybody's SIP implementation doe

Re: [Sip-implementors] Indicating "Call Waiting" in a 1XX response

2009-06-10 Thread Iñaki Baz Castillo
El Miércoles, 10 de Junio de 2009, Paul Kyzivat escribió: > Actually, *in theory*, you can put Accept-Language:es into your INVITE, > and then the text messages in the response ought to be written in Spanish. > > (And of course everybody's SIP implementation does that. :-) Yes, I was to say the s

Re: [Sip-implementors] Indicating "Call Waiting" in a 1XX response

2009-06-10 Thread Paul Kyzivat
Iñaki Baz Castillo wrote: > El Miércoles, 10 de Junio de 2009, Dale Worley escribió: >> And a UAC might want to display the reason phrase, so you could use > > Do you mean that the UAC could display the reason phrase in *English*? IMHO a > standarized code or "string" should be needed for this

Re: [Sip-implementors] Indicating "Call Waiting" in a 1XX response

2009-06-10 Thread Iñaki Baz Castillo
El Miércoles, 10 de Junio de 2009, Dale Worley escribió: > > Do you mean that the UAC could display the reason phrase in *English*? > > IMHO a standarized code or "string" should be needed for this instead of > > a custom string in English. > > Strictly speaking, the UAC would display the reason p

Re: [Sip-implementors] Indicating "Call Waiting" in a 1XX response

2009-06-10 Thread Dale Worley
On Wed, 2009-06-10 at 21:22 +0200, Iñaki Baz Castillo wrote: > El Miércoles, 10 de Junio de 2009, Dale Worley escribió: > > And a UAC might want to display the reason phrase, so you could use > > Do you mean that the UAC could display the reason phrase in *English*? IMHO a > standarized code or "

Re: [Sip-implementors] Indicating "Call Waiting" in a 1XX response

2009-06-10 Thread Kanumuri, Sreeram
>>Do you mean that the UAC could display the reason phrase in *English*? >IMHO a >>>standarized code or "string" should be needed for this instead of a >>custom string in English. There is no standard for "Reason String". You can keep any String you want. Only the response code is stand

Re: [Sip-implementors] Indicating "Call Waiting" in a 1XX response

2009-06-10 Thread Iñaki Baz Castillo
El Miércoles, 10 de Junio de 2009, Dale Worley escribió: > And a UAC might want to display the reason phrase, so you could use Do you mean that the UAC could display the reason phrase in *English*? IMHO a standarized code or "string" should be needed for this instead of a custom string in Englis

Re: [Sip-implementors] Indicating "Call Waiting" in a 1XX response

2009-06-10 Thread Dale Worley
On Wed, 2009-06-10 at 21:13 +0200, Iñaki Baz Castillo wrote: > Yes, it could reply > a 182 with SDP but, how many today's devices would render the SDP in a 182 > response? They all should. That's a central tenet of SIP design -- there is a default behavior for each class of responses that a dev

Re: [Sip-implementors] Indicating "Call Waiting" in a 1XX response

2009-06-10 Thread Dale Worley
On Wed, 2009-06-10 at 15:01 -0400, Simon Perreault wrote: > Iñaki Baz Castillo wrote, on 2009-06-10 14:49: > > Hi, calling today to a cell phone I've seen in my mobile screen: > > "Call waiting in the other side" > > > > Does something similar exist for SIP? > > Isn't this exactly what code 182

Re: [Sip-implementors] Indicating "Call Waiting" in a 1XX response

2009-06-10 Thread Iñaki Baz Castillo
El Miércoles, 10 de Junio de 2009, Kanumuri, Sreeram escribió: > >> Does something similar exist for SIP? > > We can use response code "182" for this case. Humm, maybe: 21.1.4 182 Queued The called party is temporarily unavailable, but the server has decided to queue the call rather than

Re: [Sip-implementors] Indicating "Call Waiting" in a 1XX response

2009-06-10 Thread Simon Perreault
Iñaki Baz Castillo wrote, on 2009-06-10 14:49: > Hi, calling today to a cell phone I've seen in my mobile screen: > "Call waiting in the other side" > > Does something similar exist for SIP? Isn't this exactly what code 182 is for? Simon -- STUN/TURN server--> http://numb.viagenie.ca Inte

Re: [Sip-implementors] Indicating "Call Waiting" in a 1XX response

2009-06-10 Thread Kanumuri, Sreeram
>> Does something similar exist for SIP? We can use response code "182" for this case. >>Another option would be a new response code: >>"184 Call-Waiting" 182 is meant for the purposes like this no exactly call waiting but for similar things like Call in queue... On the Caller User-Interface we

[Sip-implementors] Indicating "Call Waiting" in a 1XX response

2009-06-10 Thread Iñaki Baz Castillo
Hi, calling today to a cell phone I've seen in my mobile screen: "Call waiting in the other side" This is: the callee was using a line in his phone and it was announced in a provisional response. Does something similar exist for SIP? IMHO it would be very easy to implement: A specific header

[Sip-implementors] Query related to RFC 4320 and 408 response

2009-06-10 Thread Pandurangan R S
Hi, I have a query related to RFC 4320 (Addressing issues identified with non-invite transactions) RFC 4320 states that an element will not forward 408 response upstream as it is always useless. This is true. But consider the following scenario A proxy forwards a NIT request (say SUBSCRIBE) to

[Sip-implementors] whiteboard application

2009-06-10 Thread Parushram P
Please let me know if there is any specification defining the whiteboard application in IMS ? Thank you, Parushram ___ Sip-implementors mailing list Sip-implementors@lists.cs.columbia.edu https://lists.cs.columbia.edu/cucslists/listinfo/sip-im

Re: [Sip-implementors] Questions on Presence

2009-06-10 Thread Iñaki Baz Castillo
2009/6/10 kishore sowdi : > Hi , > > I have few questions : > > 1) How a watcher can prevent himself from being watched or preventing > presentity know that watcher is watching it?. > > 2) How can a single presentity convey his presence status as "online" to one > watcher and "offline" to another

[Sip-implementors] Questions on Presence

2009-06-10 Thread kishore sowdi
Hi ,   I have few questions :   1) How a watcher can prevent himself from being watched or preventing presentity know that watcher is watching it?.   2) How can a single presentity convey his presence status as "online" to one watcher and "offline" to another watcher?..   3) How do i tell presenc