Re: [Sip-implementors] S/MIME - new topic

2011-11-07 Thread Olle E. Johansson
8 nov 2011 kl. 04:57 skrev Hadriel Kaplan: > > On Nov 7, 2011, at 4:54 PM, Iñaki Baz Castillo wrote: > >> 2011/11/7 Olle E. Johansson : > And why do you compare S/MIME in SIP with a unicorn? Because both are theoretically possible but have not been found in the wild? >>> >

Re: [Sip-implementors] S/MIME - new topic

2011-11-07 Thread Olle E. Johansson
7 nov 2011 kl. 22:54 skrev Iñaki Baz Castillo: > 2011/11/7 Olle E. Johansson : And why do you compare S/MIME in SIP with a unicorn? >>> >>> Because both are theoretically possible but have not been found in the wild? >> >> And does anyone see a reason why? Not the unicorns... > > The reas

Re: [Sip-implementors] S/MIME - new topic

2011-11-07 Thread Hadriel Kaplan
On Nov 7, 2011, at 4:54 PM, Iñaki Baz Castillo wrote: > 2011/11/7 Olle E. Johansson : And why do you compare S/MIME in SIP with a unicorn? >>> >>> Because both are theoretically possible but have not been found in the wild? >> >> And does anyone see a reason why? Not the unicorns... > > T

Re: [Sip-implementors] S/MIME - new topic

2011-11-07 Thread Iñaki Baz Castillo
2011/11/7 Olle E. Johansson : >>> And why do you compare S/MIME in SIP with a unicorn? >> >> Because both are theoretically possible but have not been found in the wild? > > And does anyone see a reason why? Not the unicorns... The reason: Telcos wallen gardens. SIP is not for the open Internet so

[Sip-implementors] TLS certificates in SIP: intermediate CA certificates

2011-11-07 Thread Iñaki Baz Castillo
Hi, when I contact https://github.com I get two certificates: 1) "CA: DigiCert High Assurance EV CA-1". This is *not* a Root CA certificate, instead it is issued/signed by a Root CA named "DigiCert High Assurance EV Root CA". 2) Github own certificate. This is issued/signed by the previous certi

Re: [Sip-implementors] Binary bodies in SIP?

2011-11-07 Thread Iñaki Baz Castillo
2011/11/7 Worley, Dale R (Dale) : >> From: Iñaki Baz Castillo [i...@aliax.net] >> >> S/MIME is, for sure, very extended in SIP devices. If not, why does >> every SIP related RFC include a section recommending usage of S/MIME? >> I'm pretty sure that S/MIME will become a revolution in SIP within >>

Re: [Sip-implementors] Binary bodies in SIP?

2011-11-07 Thread Worley, Dale R (Dale)
> From: Iñaki Baz Castillo [i...@aliax.net] > > S/MIME is, for sure, very extended in SIP devices. If not, why does > every SIP related RFC include a section recommending usage of S/MIME? > I'm pretty sure that S/MIME will become a revolution in SIP within > next 2 years! > S/MIME for all !!! In

Re: [Sip-implementors] S/MIME and unicorns...

2011-11-07 Thread Olle E. Johansson
7 nov 2011 kl. 16:53 skrev Worley, Dale R (Dale): >> From: Hadriel Kaplan [hkap...@acmepacket.com] >> >> But this S/MIME discussion is like arguing about the length of horn a >> unicorn must have. ;) > > Ah, but it's so much more interesting to argue about the universal > properties of the memb

Re: [Sip-implementors] Binary bodies in SIP?

2011-11-07 Thread Iñaki Baz Castillo
2011/11/7 Hadriel Kaplan : > But this S/MIME discussion is like arguing about the length of horn a unicorn > must have. ;) Oh, I cannot believe what I read... !!! S/MIME is, for sure, very extended in SIP devices. If not, why does every SIP related RFC include a section recommending usage of S/M

Re: [Sip-implementors] Binary bodies in SIP?

2011-11-07 Thread Cullen Jennings
On Nov 6, 2011, at 8:47 PM, Hadriel Kaplan wrote: > > On Nov 6, 2011, at 9:55 PM, Worley, Dale R (Dale) wrote: > >>> From: Cullen Jennings [flu...@cisco.com] >>> Although of course, RFC 3261 violates this rule. >>> >>> Really - I don't think so. I think people are confused what binary me

Re: [Sip-implementors] Binary bodies in SIP?

2011-11-07 Thread Cullen Jennings
On Nov 2, 2011, at 4:02 PM, Worley, Dale R (Dale) wrote: > > Although of course, RFC 3261 violates this rule. Really - I don't think so. I think people are confused what binary mean. ___ Sip-implementors mailing list Sip-implementors@lists.cs.columbi

Re: [Sip-implementors] Binary bodies in SIP?

2011-11-07 Thread Worley, Dale R (Dale)
> From: Hadriel Kaplan [hkap...@acmepacket.com] > > But this S/MIME discussion is like arguing about the length of horn a > unicorn must have. ;) Ah, but it's so much more interesting to argue about the universal properties of the members of the empty set! Dale Real programmers are either l

Re: [Sip-implementors] S/MIME - new topic

2011-11-07 Thread Olle E. Johansson
7 nov 2011 kl. 14:23 skrev Hadriel Kaplan: > > On Nov 7, 2011, at 2:18 AM, Olle E. Johansson wrote: > >> >> 7 nov 2011 kl. 04:47 skrev Hadriel Kaplan: >> >>> But this S/MIME discussion is like arguing about the length of horn a >>> unicorn must have. ;) >> >> And why do you compare S/MIME i

Re: [Sip-implementors] S/MIME - new topic

2011-11-07 Thread Raphael Tryster
Creatures with an even number of horns have a far greater chance of success than those with odd numbers, as implied by SIP 4.0. This is why unicorns have not been found in the wild. S/MIME might be less like a unicorn if it were called S/MIM\E. -Original Message- From: sip-implementors-b

Re: [Sip-implementors] S/MIME - new topic

2011-11-07 Thread Hadriel Kaplan
On Nov 7, 2011, at 2:18 AM, Olle E. Johansson wrote: > > 7 nov 2011 kl. 04:47 skrev Hadriel Kaplan: > >> But this S/MIME discussion is like arguing about the length of horn a >> unicorn must have. ;) > > And why do you compare S/MIME in SIP with a unicorn? Because both are theoretically poss

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