Re: [Sip-implementors] Music-on-hold proposal

2008-09-26 Thread Vikram Chhibber
Yes Dale, I am referring to RFC 4916. I meant that what is the behavior of the UA if the SIP dialog that got established supported "from-change"? Does holding party informs the held party that he is not connected to different identity? On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 9:21 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >

Re: [Sip-implementors] Music-on-hold proposal

2008-09-26 Thread Dale . Worley
From: "Vikram Chhibber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Do you think it is worth mentioning about the RFC 4917 on SIP Connected Identity as the media-session is re-negotiated in mid-dialog? (I assume you mean RFC 4916.) I expect that anyone who works with SDP knows this fundamental property of the

Re: [Sip-implementors] Music-on-hold proposal

2008-09-26 Thread Vikram Chhibber
Thanks Dale, this explains a lot. Do you think it is worth mentioning about the RFC 4917 on SIP Connected Identity as the media-session is re-negotiated in mid-dialog? On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 1:07 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: "Vikram Chhibber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >I think I have

Re: [Sip-implementors] Music-on-hold proposal

2008-09-23 Thread Dale . Worley
From: "Vikram Chhibber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I think I have missed something here. Why do we need to maintain codec numbers relationship with the previous offer/answer (Between Alice and Bob)? My understanding is that offer/answer model does not have any state dependency with previou

Re: [Sip-implementors] Music-on-hold proposal

2008-09-23 Thread Vikram Chhibber
I think I have missed something here. Why do we need to maintain codec numbers relationship with the previous offer/answer (Between Alice and Bob)? My understanding is that offer/answer model does not have any state dependency with previous one except for "o" line and maintaining media description

Re: [Sip-implementors] Music-on-hold proposal

2008-09-22 Thread Dale . Worley
From: "Vikram Chhibber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> In the call flow that the draft describes, isn't it better to send re-INVITE without SDP towards the music-store? The reason is that "Alice" UA may send back codecs previously negotiated with "Bob" whose intersection with media-source may

Re: [Sip-implementors] Music-on-hold proposal

2008-09-18 Thread Dale . Worley
From: "Rastogi, Vipul (Vipul)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> What basic issue you wanna remove from this new RFC in MOH scenario ? I can think of MOH directly be initiated by UAC/UAS rather than any middle man. Is it correct assumption? Yes, that is the idea. Dale _

Re: [Sip-implementors] Music-on-hold proposal

2008-09-18 Thread Rastogi, Vipul (Vipul)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 2:32 AM To: sip-implementors@lists.cs.columbia.edu Subject: [Sip-implementors] Music-on-hold proposal I've got an Internet-Draft that describes the best way that we (the sipX PBX project) have found to implement music-on-hold. I'd like fee

Re: [Sip-implementors] Music-on-hold proposal

2008-09-17 Thread Vikram Chhibber
In the call flow that the draft describes, isn't it better to send re-INVITE without SDP towards the music-store? The reason is that "Alice" UA may send back codecs previously negotiated with "Bob" whose intersection with media-source may be 0. Even though http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/dra

Re: [Sip-implementors] Music-on-hold proposal

2008-09-17 Thread Paul Kyzivat
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >From: Paul Kyzivat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >It is technically a "callee-capability". IMO using it for rendering is a >bit of an abuse, since it is trying to describe what it is doing rather >than what it is capable of doing. Even so, it doesn't mean "hol

Re: [Sip-implementors] Music-on-hold proposal

2008-09-17 Thread Dale . Worley
From: Paul Kyzivat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> It is technically a "callee-capability". IMO using it for rendering is a bit of an abuse, since it is trying to describe what it is doing rather than what it is capable of doing. Even so, it doesn't mean "hold". I'm not certain that it reall

Re: [Sip-implementors] Music-on-hold proposal

2008-09-17 Thread Rockson Li (zhengyli)
: [Sip-implementors] Music-on-hold proposal Iñaki Baz Castillo wrote: > El Miércoles, 17 de Septiembre de 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: >> I've got an Internet-Draft that describes the best way that we (the >> sipX PBX project) have found to implement music-on-hold. I

Re: [Sip-implementors] Music-on-hold proposal

2008-09-17 Thread Iñaki Baz Castillo
El Jueves, 18 de Septiembre de 2008, Paul Kyzivat escribió: > > Why so strange parameter name in Contact?: > > +sip.rendering="no" > > Is it usual a parameter name begining with "+" and containing a dot "." > > in other parameters? > > You obviously haven't yet found callerprefs. Check out RFCs

Re: [Sip-implementors] Music-on-hold proposal

2008-09-17 Thread Paul Kyzivat
Iñaki Baz Castillo wrote: > El Miércoles, 17 de Septiembre de 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: >> I've got an Internet-Draft that describes the best way that we (the >> sipX PBX project) have found to implement music-on-hold. I'd like >> feedback from the implementor community. > > Hi, it seem

Re: [Sip-implementors] Music-on-hold proposal

2008-09-17 Thread Iñaki Baz Castillo
El Miércoles, 17 de Septiembre de 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: > I've got an Internet-Draft that describes the best way that we (the > sipX PBX project) have found to implement music-on-hold. I'd like > feedback from the implementor community. Hi, it seems really interesting. Just a question

[Sip-implementors] Music-on-hold proposal

2008-09-17 Thread Dale . Worley
I've got an Internet-Draft that describes the best way that we (the sipX PBX project) have found to implement music-on-hold. I'd like feedback from the implementor community. A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. Title : Ses