Re: [Sip-implementors] SDP offer answer model

2014-04-18 Thread Brett Tate
zivat; sip-implementors@lists.cs.columbia.edu > Subject: Re: [Sip-implementors] SDP offer answer model > > http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc3264.txt > > 7 Offerer Processing of the Answer When the offerer receives the > answer, it MAY send media on the accepted stream(s) (assuming it is &

Re: [Sip-implementors] SDP offer answer model

2014-04-18 Thread Ozan Terzi
http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc3264.txt 7 Offerer Processing of the Answer When the offerer receives the answer, it MAY send media on the accepted stream(s) (assuming it is listed as sendrecv or recvonly in the answer). It MUST send using a media format listed in the answer, and it SHOULD use the f

Re: [Sip-implementors] SDP offer answer model

2014-04-17 Thread Paul Kyzivat
On 4/17/14 1:02 PM, isshed wrote: I want to make it inter-operable with Polycom's real presence desktop. Then, an unsatisfying as it is, it may be best to first find out what Polycom supports in this regard. From a standards perspective, SDP capability negotiation (RFC 5939 and friends) wer

Re: [Sip-implementors] SDP offer answer model

2014-04-17 Thread isshed
I want to make it inter-operable with Polycom's real presence desktop. On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 6:43 PM, Paul Kyzivat wrote: > On 4/17/14 12:45 AM, isshed wrote: >> >> Thanks Paul and everyone ... >> >> I am designing Phone1 to use only one audio and one video. Phone1 >> supports secured media as

Re: [Sip-implementors] SDP offer answer model

2014-04-17 Thread Paul Kyzivat
On 4/17/14 12:45 AM, isshed wrote: Thanks Paul and everyone ... I am designing Phone1 to use only one audio and one video. Phone1 supports secured media as well. so it is offering both secure/non secure to phone2 and expects phone2 to select among the given m-lines (RTP and SRTP). And what is

Re: [Sip-implementors] SDP offer answer model

2014-04-16 Thread isshed
Thanks Paul and everyone ... I am designing Phone1 to use only one audio and one video. Phone1 supports secured media as well. so it is offering both secure/non secure to phone2 and expects phone2 to select among the given m-lines (RTP and SRTP). Thanks. On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 7:54 PM, Paul Kyz

Re: [Sip-implementors] SDP offer answer model

2014-04-16 Thread Paul Kyzivat
I read a number of the replies to this, but couldn't find an obvious place to jump in, so I'm just replying here. An offer multiple audio and/or video m-lines does not mean that they are *alternatives*. Absent some explicit indication, there is no way to know what the offerer's intent is in of

Re: [Sip-implementors] SDP offer answer model

2014-04-16 Thread Seshagiri Kondaveti
aurav Kumar; isshed; sip-implementors Subject: Re: [Sip-implementors] SDP offer answer model Hi, If I recall correctly, there are MMUSIC RFCs (such as maybe RFC 6871) which can potentially be used to clearly communicate to answerer that it prefers only specific combinations of audio and video

Re: [Sip-implementors] SDP offer answer model

2014-04-16 Thread Brett Tate
sshed > Cc: sip-implementors > Subject: Re: [Sip-implementors] SDP offer answer model > > Hi, > > This Offer-Answer is use-case of supporting multiple m-line for SRTP. > The answerer does support SAVP (for media encryption). > Ideally, Answerer should keep the port zero for audio a

Re: [Sip-implementors] SDP offer answer model

2014-04-16 Thread Gaurav Kumar
age- From: sip-implementors-boun...@lists.cs.columbia.edu [mailto:sip-implementors-boun...@lists.cs.columbia.edu] On Behalf Of Brett Tate Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 1:49 PM To: isshed; sip-implementors Subject: Re: [Sip-implementors] SDP offer answer model > Which m line should phone1

Re: [Sip-implementors] SDP offer answer model

2014-04-16 Thread Brett Tate
> Which m line should phone1 select to send and > receive audio and video. >From an offer/answer perspective, all of the m lines. -- This email is intended solely for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the

Re: [Sip-implementors] SDP offer answer model

2014-04-16 Thread Katsidoniotis, Manolis (NSN - US/Irving)
I think this happens with codecs. The first one from each list would be the selected and would be initially used unless re-offer or switch on the fly tales place. However in the case of m-lines (ie. multiple negotiated streams) I'm under the impression that unless port is 0 in any of them then

Re: [Sip-implementors] SDP offer answer model

2014-04-16 Thread Mayank Kamthan
I think the first audio line and the first video line in the answer should be taken as the negotiated codecs. Thanks, Mayank. Mayank Kamthan On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 12:21 PM, isshed wrote: > Hi All, > > I have 1 basic query regarding ofer-answer model > > > Phone1 is sending the offer with 2

[Sip-implementors] SDP offer answer model

2014-04-15 Thread isshed
Hi All, I have 1 basic query regarding ofer-answer model Phone1 is sending the offer with 2 audio mlines and 2 video mline like as follows. m=audio 3342 RTP/SAVP 0 8 127 a=crypto:7 AES_CM_128_HMAC_SHA1_80 inline:22 a=rtpmap:0 PCMU/8000 a=rtpmap:8 PCMA/8000 a=rtpmap:127 telephone-event/

Re: [Sip-implementors] SDP Offer Answer Model

2013-10-24 Thread isshed
Thanks Paul and Brett. I have treated as a valid offer because the port is zero. Also, if all of the m lines presents do not have PT list. then I rejected with 488. Thanking you again!! On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 8:03 PM, Paul Kyzivat wrote: > On 10/23/13 6:23 AM, Brett Tate wrote: > >> Also I w

Re: [Sip-implementors] SDP Offer Answer Model

2013-10-23 Thread Paul Kyzivat
On 10/23/13 6:23 AM, Brett Tate wrote: >> Also I want to know what should be the answer in this case ? > > Because the offer SDP is malformed, the device can basically act how it > wants. Similarly, I assume that the behavior might vary based upon if > received within INVITE, UPDATE, PRACK, 18x,

Re: [Sip-implementors] SDP Offer Answer Model

2013-10-23 Thread Brett Tate
> Also I want to know what should be the answer in this case ?  Because the offer SDP is malformed, the device can basically act how it wants. Similarly, I assume that the behavior might vary based upon if received within INVITE, UPDATE, PRACK, 18x, or 2xx. Some aspects are likely discussed wi

Re: [Sip-implementors] SDP Offer Answer Model

2013-10-22 Thread isshed
Also I want to know what should be the answer in this case ? On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 10:21 AM, isshed wrote: > Thanks Brett!! > > > On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 10:47 PM, Brett Tate wrote: > >> > Can there be an offer with as follows. >> > >> > v=0 >> > o=abc 940493389 1 IN IP4 10.10.10

Re: [Sip-implementors] SDP Offer Answer Model

2013-10-22 Thread isshed
Thanks Brett!! On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 10:47 PM, Brett Tate wrote: > > Can there be an offer with as follows. > > > > v=0 > > o=abc 940493389 1 IN IP4 10.10.10.10 > > s=- > > c=IN IP4 10.10.10.10 > > t=0 0 > > m=audio 0 RTP/AVP > > > > Here m line does not ha

Re: [Sip-implementors] SDP Offer Answer Model

2013-10-22 Thread Paul Kyzivat
I believe this is valid. If accepted, you will have a signaling session, but no media. That isn't terribly useful if it stays that way. But it might just be transitional, with an intent to send an updated offer later. But the caller is risking that the callee will simply refuse the call. If ther

Re: [Sip-implementors] SDP Offer Answer Model

2013-10-22 Thread Paul Kyzivat
On 10/22/13 1:17 PM, Brett Tate wrote: >> Can there be an offer with as follows. >> >>v=0 >>o=abc 940493389 1 IN IP4 10.10.10.10 >>s=- >>c=IN IP4 10.10.10.10 >>t=0 0 >>m=audio 0 RTP/AVP >> >> Here m line does not have any payload >> format . Is this a

Re: [Sip-implementors] SDP Offer Answer Model

2013-10-22 Thread Brett Tate
> Can there be an offer with as follows. > > v=0 > o=abc 940493389 1 IN IP4 10.10.10.10 > s=- > c=IN IP4 10.10.10.10 > t=0 0 > m=audio 0 RTP/AVP > > Here m line does not have any payload > format . Is this a validoffer? No. It does not comply with RFC 4566 A

[Sip-implementors] SDP Offer Answer Model

2013-10-22 Thread isshed
Hi all, Can there be an offer with as follows. v=0 o=abc 940493389 1 IN IP4 10.10.10.10 s=- c=IN IP4 10.10.10.10 t=0 0 m=audio 0 RTP/AVP Here m line does not have any payload format . Is this a valid offer? what is the use case of this offer? Thanks,