Re: [Sip-implementors] SDP version increment without SDP change in early dialog

2015-09-18 Thread Paul Kyzivat
I just noticed this thread. So I'm jumping in where it seems to make sense. Note that 3261 and friends are *not* very clear about this. RFC6337 tried to clarify the original intent, without being normative. (In retrospect it would probably have been better to make a normative update.) There we

Re: [Sip-implementors] SDP version increment without SDP change in early dialog

2015-09-18 Thread Brett Tate
> I agree with you but does not. > > Basically what they are saying is this: If SDP version number > is incremented then this counts as an update/new offer period. They can call it whatever they want. RFC 3261 says that the SDP must be ignored (i.e. it is not an updated answer or new offer). Ho

Re: [Sip-implementors] SDP version increment without SDP change in early dialog

2015-09-18 Thread Roger Wiklund
I agree with you but Nokia does not. Basically what they are saying is this: If SDP version number is incremented then this counts as an update/new offer period. The problem is I can't find an RFC stating "You MUST NOT increment version number if no change is made to the SDP" Even Paul Kyzviat i

Re: [Sip-implementors] SDP version increment without SDP change in early dialog

2015-09-18 Thread Brett Tate
> The violation is: > > "When a reliable provisional response contains a session description, and > is > the first to do so, then that session description is the answer to the > offer > in the INVITE request. The answer cannot be updated, and a new offer > cannot > be sent in a subsequent reliabl

Re: [Sip-implementors] SDP version increment without SDP change in early dialog

2015-09-18 Thread Roger Wiklund
hus it shouldn't cause the call to be released. With that >>> > said, some devices have configuration options to violate that >>> > statement and treat as an updated answer SDP (or a new offer SDP). >>> > >>> > RFC 3261 section 13.2.1: "Th

Re: [Sip-implementors] SDP version increment without SDP change in early dialog

2015-09-17 Thread Roger Wiklund
> Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 3:29 PM >> To: Brett Tate >> Cc: sip-implementors@lists.cs.columbia.edu >> Subject: Re: [Sip-implementors] SDP version increment without SDP change >> in >> early dialog >> >> Hi >> >> Correct I forgot to

Re: [Sip-implementors] SDP version increment without SDP change in early dialog

2015-09-17 Thread Brett Tate
2.1: "The UAC MUST treat the first session > > description it receives as the answer, and MUST ignore any session > > descriptions in subsequent responses to the initial INVITE." > > > > More inline. > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >>

Re: [Sip-implementors] SDP version increment without SDP change in early dialog

2015-09-17 Thread Roger Wiklund
t; implementors-boun...@lists.cs.columbia.edu] On Behalf Of Roger Wiklund >> Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 1:47 PM >> To: sip-implementors@lists.cs.columbia.edu >> Subject: [Sip-implementors] SDP version increment without SDP change in > early >> dialog >> >

Re: [Sip-implementors] SDP version increment without SDP change in early dialog

2015-09-17 Thread Brett Tate
u > Subject: [Sip-implementors] SDP version increment without SDP change in early > dialog > > Hi list > > I'm seeing the following behavior from an Aastra 400 PBX. > > Flow below is ITSP to PBX > > INVITE> > <100Trying > <183 w/SDP > PRACK> >

[Sip-implementors] SDP version increment without SDP change in early dialog

2015-09-17 Thread Roger Wiklund
Hi list I'm seeing the following behavior from an Aastra 400 PBX. Flow below is ITSP to PBX INVITE> <100Trying <183 w/SDP PRACK> <200OK (PRACK) <180 w/SDP >PRACK <200OK (PRACK) <200OK (INVITE)w/SDP ACK> BYE> <200OK (BYE) Each time the PBX sends an SDP, the version number is incremented even tho