Re: [Sip-implementors] Telephony DTMF adaptation

2011-02-01 Thread Worley, Dale R (Dale)
From: Mikko Lehto [msle...@gmail.com] Let's say I want to have incoming media delivered straight to my RTP capable household appliance (loudspeakers, TV, playstation), while signaling is handled entirely by mobile device. In that case, the mobile device uses SIP to contact the media source,

Re: [Sip-implementors] Telephony DTMF adaptation

2011-02-01 Thread Paul Kyzivat
On 1/31/2011 6:06 PM, Mikko Lehto wrote: I fail to understand why DTMF delivery methods in signaling path are not as stabilized as RFC 2833/4733 is. There are many use cases where nice features can be enabled with events while dedicated event detector is not feasible in media path.

Re: [Sip-implementors] Telephony DTMF adaptation

2011-02-01 Thread Mikko Lehto
Paul Kyzivat pkyzi...@cisco.com wrote: Very early on there were proprietary INFO-based DTMF methods. For fairly good reasons, those techniques were found wanting. Rather than do another INFO-based mechanism, KPML was defined. But it has not never gotten traction. Meanwhile other mechanisms

Re: [Sip-implementors] Telephony DTMF adaptation

2011-01-31 Thread Worley, Dale R (Dale)
From: sip-implementors-boun...@lists.cs.columbia.edu [sip-implementors-boun...@lists.cs.columbia.edu] On Behalf Of Mikko Lehto [msle...@gmail.com] With INFO mess, few NOTIFY event mechanisms, RFC 2833/4733 and RFC 4730 in mind, what do you think is the

Re: [Sip-implementors] Telephony DTMF adaptation

2011-01-31 Thread Mikko Lehto
Worley, Dale R (Dale) dwor...@avaya.com wrote: 2833-style DTMF is very common in pure SIP situations and is supported by many telephone models. Sure. But what can you do when you have a requirement to 1) allow direct RTP and 2) to capture keyevents for middlebox services? -- Mikko

Re: [Sip-implementors] Telephony DTMF adaptation

2011-01-31 Thread Saúl Ibarra Corretgé
On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 6:36 PM, Mikko Lehto msle...@gmail.com wrote: Worley, Dale R (Dale) dwor...@avaya.com wrote: 2833-style DTMF is very common in pure SIP situations and is supported by many telephone models. Sure. But what can you do when you have a requirement to 1) allow direct RTP

Re: [Sip-implementors] Telephony DTMF adaptation

2011-01-31 Thread Worley, Dale R (Dale)
From: Mikko Lehto [msle...@gmail.com] 2833-style DTMF is very common in pure SIP situations and is supported by many telephone models. Sure. But what can you do when you have a requirement to 1) allow direct RTP and 2) to capture keyevents for

[Sip-implementors] Telephony DTMF adaptation

2011-01-30 Thread Mikko Lehto
Hi I wish things would turnout to be more simple for INFO based events, but it looks like DTMF Info-Package proposal¹ is not² going³ to fly. With INFO mess, few NOTIFY event mechanisms, RFC 2833/4733 and RFC 4730 in mind, what do you think is the best practice for maximun interoperability? I

Re: [Sip-implementors] Telephony DTMF adaptation

2011-01-30 Thread Parthasarathi R (partr)
-implementors-boun...@lists.cs.columbia.edu] On Behalf Of Mikko Lehto Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 5:35 AM To: sip-implementors@lists.cs.columbia.edu Subject: [Sip-implementors] Telephony DTMF adaptation Hi I wish things would turnout to be more simple for INFO based events, but it looks like DTMF Info