Re: [Sks-devel] [GnuPG-users] sks-keyservers.net: Changes to pools / SRV Weights

2012-05-13 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 2012-05-13 22:33, Phil Pennock wrote: > I remain tempted to drop the IPv4 record from sks.spodhuis.org, > leaving the client hostname as IPv6-only; one day, when I need to > reclaim that IPv4 address, I will do so, but not just yet. I'm > please

Re: [Sks-devel] [GnuPG-users] sks-keyservers.net: Changes to pools / SRV Weights

2012-05-13 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 2012-05-13 22:38, Phil Pennock wrote: > On 2012-05-13 at 16:33 -0400, Phil Pennock wrote: >> When I do reclaim the IPv4, I'll probably split sks/sks-peer to >> two different IPv6 addresses and set up appropriate >> packet-filtering on the v6 addre

Re: [Sks-devel] [GnuPG-users] sks-keyservers.net: Changes to pools / SRV Weights

2012-05-13 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 2012-05-13 22:33, Phil Pennock wrote: > On 2012-05-13 at 15:20 -0500, John Clizbe wrote: > > Hrm. When I was new to SKS, I set up "sks.spodhuis.org" and > "sks-peer.spodhuis.org". My hope was to use different filtering > on different addresse

Re: [Sks-devel] [GnuPG-users] sks-keyservers.net: Changes to pools / SRV Weights

2012-05-13 Thread Phil Pennock
On 2012-05-13 at 16:33 -0400, Phil Pennock wrote: > When I do reclaim the IPv4, I'll > probably split sks/sks-peer to two different IPv6 addresses and set up > appropriate packet-filtering on the v6 address, so that peering can > remain up even in the face of Do

Re: [Sks-devel] [GnuPG-users] sks-keyservers.net: Changes to pools / SRV Weights

2012-05-13 Thread Phil Pennock
On 2012-05-13 at 15:20 -0500, John Clizbe wrote: > So I'd restate Kristen's requirement as a server's peers need to have in their > membership file the name in the host's sksconf file, be that an A record or a > CNAME (or an entry in /etc/hosts). In actual practice, this is, as Kristen > described

Re: [Sks-devel] [GnuPG-users] sks-keyservers.net: Changes to pools / SRV Weights

2012-05-13 Thread John Clizbe
Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote: > On 2012-05-13 17:43, Giovanni Mascellani wrote: >> Hi. > >> Il 13/05/2012 16:41, Gabor Kiss ha scritto: >>> OK. I understand the situation. Sksconf and peer's membership >>> files must contain the _same_ name whatever it is. In this case >>> Giovanni must decide wh

Re: [Sks-devel] [GnuPG-users] sks-keyservers.net: Changes to pools / SRV Weights

2012-05-13 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 2012-05-13 17:43, Giovanni Mascellani wrote: > Hi. > > Il 13/05/2012 16:41, Gabor Kiss ha scritto: >> OK. I understand the situation. Sksconf and peer's membership >> files must contain the _same_ name whatever it is. In this case >> Giovanni m

Re: [Sks-devel] [GnuPG-users] sks-keyservers.net: Changes to pools / SRV Weights

2012-05-13 Thread Giovanni Mascellani
Hi. Il 13/05/2012 16:41, Gabor Kiss ha scritto: > OK. I understand the situation. Sksconf and peer's membership > files must contain the _same_ name whatever it is. > In this case Giovanni must decide what name to use. I changed the hostname in the configuration, although I find it a rather funny

Re: [Sks-devel] [GnuPG-users] sks-keyservers.net: Changes to pools / SRV Weights

2012-05-13 Thread Gabor Kiss
> I'd turn it the other way around. The hostname in sksconf is a > principal identifier of the server, no matter which alias is used to > access it, so the only one that can be used without getting duplicates > in the pool. > > The hostname in sksconf should reflect the primary DNS names it is > a

Re: [Sks-devel] [GnuPG-users] sks-keyservers.net: Changes to pools / SRV Weights

2012-05-13 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 2012-05-13 16:26, Gabor Kiss wrote: >> Easiest way around it is using a properly defined membership file >> that reference the hostname found in the sksconf. This is one of >> the reasons I've provided a reference membership file[1]. > > It seems

Re: [Sks-devel] [GnuPG-users] sks-keyservers.net: Changes to pools / SRV Weights

2012-05-13 Thread Jeffrey Johnson
On May 13, 2012, at 10:26 AM, Gabor Kiss wrote: >> Easiest way around it is using a properly defined membership file that >> reference the hostname found in the sksconf. This is one of the >> reasons I've provided a reference membership file[1]. > > It seems to be easy like replacing all domain

Re: [Sks-devel] [GnuPG-users] sks-keyservers.net: Changes to pools / SRV Weights

2012-05-13 Thread Gabor Kiss
> Easiest way around it is using a properly defined membership file that > reference the hostname found in the sksconf. This is one of the > reasons I've provided a reference membership file[1]. It seems to be easy like replacing all domain names by IP addresses in configuration files but principa

Re: [Sks-devel] [GnuPG-users] sks-keyservers.net: Changes to pools / SRV Weights

2012-05-13 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 2012-05-13 16:00, Gabor Kiss wrote: >> Nor is the cross-peering check in the meta page used for >> anything, it is only there for convenience for the keyserver >> operators. > > Bingo. It is the convenience what I miss. :-) I'm a keyserver > oper

Re: [Sks-devel] [GnuPG-users] sks-keyservers.net: Changes to pools / SRV Weights

2012-05-13 Thread Gabor Kiss
> Nor is the cross-peering check in the meta page used for anything, it > is only there for convenience for the keyserver operators. Bingo. It is the convenience what I miss. :-) I'm a keyserver operator. Actual status page is confusing and makes me nervous because it reports error even it is all

Re: [Sks-devel] [GnuPG-users] sks-keyservers.net: Changes to pools / SRV Weights

2012-05-13 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 2012-05-13 15:36, Gabor Kiss wrote: >> * The change to use hostname reported in status page as basis, >> which removed quite a few duplicates, and two -- three keyservers >> removed due to lack of FQDN in that hostname. > > BTW. One of my peers i

Re: [Sks-devel] [GnuPG-users] sks-keyservers.net: Changes to pools / SRV Weights

2012-05-13 Thread Jeffrey Johnson
On May 13, 2012, at 9:37 AM, Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Incidentally, which server is that? Would be nice to see in the pool keys.n3npq.net (virtual host on mashpee.jbj.org) SHOULD have an apache2 reverse proxy in place. OTOH I'm WebFU challenged, and

Re: [Sks-devel] [GnuPG-users] sks-keyservers.net: Changes to pools / SRV Weights

2012-05-13 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 2012-05-13 15:29, Jeffrey Johnson wrote: > > On May 13, 2012, at 9:05 AM, Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote: > >> >> > > Putting a band-aid on an issue isn't the best engineering, nor is > reverse proxy necessarily the "best" engineering solution e

Re: [Sks-devel] [GnuPG-users] sks-keyservers.net: Changes to pools / SRV Weights

2012-05-13 Thread Gabor Kiss
> * The change to use hostname reported in status page as basis, which > removed quite a few duplicates, and two -- three keyservers removed > due to lack of FQDN in that hostname. BTW. One of my peers is keyserver.uz.sns.it. On page http://sks-keyservers.net/status/info/keys.niif.hu it is marked

Re: [Sks-devel] [GnuPG-users] sks-keyservers.net: Changes to pools / SRV Weights

2012-05-13 Thread Jeffrey Johnson
On May 13, 2012, at 9:05 AM, Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote: > > So more reverse-proxy enabled servers* would be a good thing for the > pool. > As usual, I find myself with a minority/contrarian and likely controversial opinion: Are reverse proxy servers really a good thing? There's a

Re: [Sks-devel] [GnuPG-users] sks-keyservers.net: Changes to pools / SRV Weights

2012-05-13 Thread Gabor Kiss
> But in the end , whether it is 45, 65 or 105 I don't necessarily care, > as long as there are enough to provide good results to the pool. Eeeerrr unfortunately two weeks ago somebody wrote on an other mailing list that PGP is dead. Then I confuted him with growing number of key servers. Now

Re: [Sks-devel] [GnuPG-users] sks-keyservers.net: Changes to pools / SRV Weights

2012-05-13 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 2012-05-13 13:58, Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote: > On 2012-05-13 07:48, Gabor Kiss wrote: >> Dear Kristian, > > > * Updating the pool more frequently, it now updates every two > hours (why is it relevant that it is updating more frequently? > Sin

Re: [Sks-devel] [GnuPG-users] sks-keyservers.net: Changes to pools / SRV Weights

2012-05-13 Thread Kristian Fiskerstrand
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 2012-05-13 07:48, Gabor Kiss wrote: > Dear Kristian, > >> > >> [1] http://sks-keyservers.net/status/ > > This is quite strange. On April 30 there were 92 servers in the > pool. Today your status page shows 47 only. > Hi Gabor, I haven't loo

Re: [Sks-devel] [GnuPG-users] sks-keyservers.net: Changes to pools / SRV Weights

2012-05-12 Thread Gabor Kiss
Dear Kristian, > I have today pushed changes to my production server that affects the > keyserver pools > * eu.pool.sks-keyservers.net (Europe) > * na.pool.sks-keyservers.net (North America) > * oc.pool.sks-keyservers.net (Oceania) * > > The changes are related to calculation of DNS Service Re