Re: [SLUG] Mandrake + Linux Workshop [Was: Firewire???]

2002-03-07 Thread Bill Taylor
thanks very much! Could have said this BEFORE I ordered debian! Heracles wrote: Don't do that. It's too east to install ;-) Make 'em suffer like we had to - give 'em Debian! Stay well and happy Heracles -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info:

Re: [SLUG] PDF creation in Linux

2002-03-07 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Peter Rundle I'd basically like to create a print queue that outputs a PDF file, or alternatively an e-mail address that converts the attached file to PDF. (al la doc2pdf) There are many recipes for this in the SLUG archives, notably ones by Simon Rumble and myself. :-) - Jeff --

Re: [SLUG] Mandrake + Linux Workshop [Was: Firewire???]

2002-03-07 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Bill Taylor thanks very much! Could have said this BEFORE I ordered debian! Heh. Don't worry, Heracles is just a local troll. :-) Debian is great if that's what you're into (I, for one, am), but other distros suit new users (especially the new-to-computers kind) a bit better.

Re: [SLUG] ask summary of installed programs

2002-03-07 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=henry Everytime I install Redhat ,the summary(package name,size, it's use) of installed programs will flash in front of me . I wish to know what package I have it's use. Could someone know any system-file which have such records ?

Re: [SLUG] linux help

2002-03-07 Thread Ken Foskey
On Thu, 2002-03-07 at 09:59, Vladimir VRA09 Rakic wrote: hi, is this the correct e-mail address for linux help, and if not, i'd appreciate the correct one . linux help is a company that provides for fee service on linux. http://www.everythinglinux.com.au/cat/support If you simply want

Re: [SLUG] Mandrake + Linux Workshop [Was: Firewire???]

2002-03-07 Thread Jamie Wilkinson
This one time, at band camp, Heracles wrote: On Thursday 07 March 2002 11:58, Jeff Waugh wrote: quote who=Christopher Booth Probably go with something like Mandrake if you are after eas(ier) setup. Mandrake 8.2 is about to come out, it is in Beta 4 release at present. When's about? I'm

Re: [SLUG] Mandrake + Linux Workshop [Was: Firewire???]

2002-03-07 Thread Bill Taylor
Jeff Waugh wrote: quote who=Bill Taylor thanks very much! Could have said this BEFORE I ordered debian! Heh. Don't worry, Heracles is just a local troll. :-) - Jeff I also ordered RH7.2 (for the network for my 'ms' users who like the games) hopefully they will also get the functionality

Re: [SLUG] ask summary of installed programs

2002-03-07 Thread Christopher Booth
rpm -lpq your.rpm | more will give you a list of all the files in your.rpm Chris On Thu, 7 Mar 2002 23:30:00 +1100 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Mar 07, 2002 at 06:42:43PM +0800, henry wrote: Everytime I install Redhat ,the summary(package name,size, it's use) of installed programs

Re: [SLUG] How this for a simple recommendation for IP-Tables firewalling and ICS

2002-03-07 Thread Andy Eager
DaZZa wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED]"> On Tue, 5 Mar 2002, Andy Eager wrote: Certainly pretty good as far as a basic explanation goes, problem isthat masquerading is not yet up to the level of ipchains and thats whatmost people want. (One IP address, masqueraded to many machines for usewith

Re: [SLUG] How this for a simple recommendation for IP-Tables firewalling and ICS

2002-03-07 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Andy Eager OK, I'm prepared to be knocked down in flames here (only if your gentle) You want to be flamed for the consultant's suggestion? :) but recently I paid a reasonably well known Linux consultant to advise me on a job I'm doing for a paying customer to install a firewall

Re: [SLUG] Mandrake + Linux Workshop [Was: Firewire???]

2002-03-07 Thread Tom Massey
On Thu, Mar 07, 2002 at 11:42:00PM +1100, Jamie Wilkinson wrote: Pfft, installing Debian is childs play. All it requires is a small amount of literacy and some common sense. Or is that too much to ask? Well, Mandrake you can install by clicking [OK] a couple of times. Debian you generally

Re: [SLUG] How this for a simple recommendation for IP-Tables firewalling and ICS

2002-03-07 Thread Crossfire
Andy Eager was once rumoured to have said: Certainly pretty good as far as a basic explanation goes, problem is that masquerading is not yet up to the level of ipchains and thats what most people want. (One IP address, masqueraded to many machines for use with ftp, realaudio etc). I still

Re: [SLUG] Mandrake + Linux Workshop [Was: Firewire???]

2002-03-07 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Tom Massey Well, Mandrake you can install by clicking [OK] a couple of times. Debian you generally have to actually use the keyboard a little. Once installed, you can pretty much configure Mandrake entirely with a mouse, Debian tends to prefer keyboard here again. Please don't say

Re: [SLUG] How this for a simple recommendation for IP-Tables firewalling and ICS

2002-03-07 Thread Tom Massey
On Fri, Mar 08, 2002 at 12:06:54AM +1100, Andy Eager wrote: Dazza wrote: I have a 2.4 kernel running iptables, and it seems to do everything fine - telnet, ssh, ftp, ICQ, irc, real audio, http, https - I haven't found anything yet that _doesn't_ work. Are you masquerading all of these

Re: [SLUG] Mandrake + Linux Workshop [Was: Firewire???]

2002-03-07 Thread Tom Massey
On Fri, Mar 08, 2002 at 12:37:25AM +1100, Jeff Waugh wrote: quote who=Tom Massey Well, Mandrake you can install by clicking [OK] a couple of times. Debian you generally have to actually use the keyboard a little. Once installed, you can pretty much configure Mandrake entirely with a

Re: [SLUG] How this for a simple recommendation for IP-Tables firewalling and ICS

2002-03-07 Thread Andy Eager
Jeff Waugh wrote: quote who=Andy Eager OK, I'm prepared to be knocked down in flames here (only if your gentle) You want to be flamed for the consultant's suggestion? :) No, but I backed it up with my own research, therefore it makes it mine as well!!! but recently I paid a reasonably well

Re: [SLUG] How this for a simple recommendation for IP-Tables firewalling and ICS

2002-03-07 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Andy Eager Jeff, I absolutley respect your opinion, after all you pointed me in the direction of postfix in all its glory and I owe a great many beeers for that and a great many emails on other things as well. However, I dont know that H323 (as esoteric as it may be) is what we

Re: [SLUG] might be a stupid question

2002-03-07 Thread Manoj Mathew
On Thu, Mar 07, 2002 at 11:39:16PM +1100, Jamie Wilkinson wrote: For some reason I was thinking you meant use the same swapfile otherwise I don't see the relevance of which particular Windows version ... oh wait, the filesystem. Yes, Pete was saying you back up the filesystem that the

Re: [SLUG] How this for a simple recommendation for IP-Tablesfirewalling and ICS

2002-03-07 Thread Graeme Robinson
On Fri, 8 Mar 2002, Andy Eager wrote: with ftp, realaudio etc). I still reckon that ipchains with a 2.2 kernel is still the simplest and most generally accepted way to do firewalling if you want particular services masqueraded. I'm interested to know your reasoning here. OK, I'm

RE: [SLUG] might be a stupid question

2002-03-07 Thread Booth, Christopher (Aus) - ATP
This would work for non ntfs partitions, eg. fat and fat32, as (at least with Mandrake 8.1) the ntfs driver only allows readonly access. A swap file would need to be on a partition that has read and write access Chris -Original Message- From: Manoj Mathew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

[SLUG] printing to pdf file with cups on Mandrake 8.1

2002-03-07 Thread Christopher Booth
Hi I was searching on google for how to do this, but most of the info that I came across for setting up a pdf printer + sharing with samba doesn't work (from what I can work out) with cups, as it does things differently (it thinks outside the box) the /etc/printcap is dynamically generated by

Re: [SLUG] linux help

2002-03-07 Thread Grant Parnell
On Thu, 7 Mar 2002, Vladimir VRA09 Rakic wrote: hi, is this the correct e-mail address for linux help, and if not, i'd appreciate the correct one . If you're after the company LinuxHelp, that's where I work. In that case it's probably best to ring 02 8753 0792 or email [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [SLUG] DOS

2002-03-07 Thread Grant Parnell
On Thu, 7 Mar 2002, D. Babbage wrote: This is REALLY basic but how do I get a DOS prompt? (From KDE desktop) Don I'd guess from the K symbol go to the system or utilities menu and look for 'shell' or 'xterm' or 'term' or something like that. Once you have a command prompt (aka terminal

Re: [SLUG] bash shell script variables

2002-03-07 Thread Grant Parnell
On Mon, 4 Mar 2002, Alister Waller wrote: Hi, I have a shell script that I am trying to tidy up a bit by creating variables and looping around to process things rather than have multiple lines of the same code. I have a companies file that contains RR and XX What I want is for the

Re: [SLUG] Laptop + Debian + no way to install it (help?).

2002-03-07 Thread Grant Parnell
On Tue, 5 Mar 2002, Ryan Verner wrote: Gidday... I'm wanting to configure my Toshiba Portege 3110CT to dual boot debian/win2k. At the moment its running XP (very, very bloddy slowly), and I have two partitions - a 4.5gig fat32 (c:), and a 1.2gig fat32 (d:). Basically, I want to install

Re: [SLUG] printing to pdf file with cups on Mandrake 8.1

2002-03-07 Thread Christopher Booth
Ok I went through the script, which I copied and pasted into a text file. There was some bad line wrap :| Now printing is fine, except that the pdf file isn't there %more /tmp/pdf.log Executable: Arguments: |37|root|Testpage|1||| PDF directory: /mnt/pdfdrop Output file name:

Re: [SLUG] Mandrake + Linux Workshop [Was: Firewire???]

2002-03-07 Thread Adam Hewitt
Yeah Mandrakes install is awesome, but wait until you get them to install a program - especially one with missing dependencies and wait for them to run screaming from the room. Debians installation is a pain in the ass sometimes, but the package management is a dream. Which one do newbies

[SLUG] The Creation of the PC - OT (off topic not old testament)

2002-03-07 Thread Christopher Booth
This might be old, but pretty true Chris The Creation of the PC 1. In the beginning GOD created the Bit and the Byte. And from those he created the Word. 2. And there were two Bytes in the Word; and nothing else existed. And God separated the One from the Zero; and he saw it was good. 3.

Re: [SLUG] Mandrake + Linux Workshop [Was: Firewire???]

2002-03-07 Thread Jamie Wilkinson
This one time, at band camp, Tom Massey wrote: Ah true. I don't think I said that a Debian install required the command line per se, just that you couldn't click [OK] a few times to complete the install - you often have to type stuff as well, in my experience. Yes, you press the Enter key over

[SLUG] anyone used vlan (802.1Q)? Compile of vconfig problems

2002-03-07 Thread Broun, Bevan
Has anyone used the virtual network interface feature that has been included in the kernel since 2.4.14? Turning on the feature and compiling the kernel is easy. Getting the vconfig program compiled is causing me headaches. BB -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/

[SLUG] e-smith SME 5 and groupware

2002-03-07 Thread Ben Donohue
Hi slugs, Just looking at SME 5 server from Mitel. Looks great and wish I had seen it six months ago. Anyway it is supposed to have LDAP support. Here is the scenario... The current place where I work has Netware 6 and they are looking for an email solution to add to it. The current solutions

Re: [SLUG] e-smith SME 5 and groupware

2002-03-07 Thread Christopher Booth
Check out www.bynari.net not free but the client looks good Chris On Fri, 8 Mar 2002 12:47:21 +1100 Ben Donohue [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi slugs, Just looking at SME 5 server from Mitel. Looks great and wish I had seen it six months ago. Anyway it is supposed to have LDAP support.

[SLUG] Re: ask perl

2002-03-07 Thread Angus Lees
On Mon, Mar 04, 2002 at 08:24:08PM +1100, Adam Kennedy wrote: And having given you two fish, let me suggest at this point that it would be well worth your while learning to fish. A great place to start is perldoc.com, which should contain just about everything you could need. Looking

[SLUG] Re: An editor for SGML?

2002-03-07 Thread Angus Lees
On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 12:46:58PM +1100, Jeff Waugh wrote: quote who=Michael Still Does anyone know of a good SGML editor which can hide the tags (but continue to insert them for paragraphs etc), and has a spell checker? Lyx, or, if you're willing to do some hacking, Conglomerate. emacs

[SLUG] Re: ask perl

2002-03-07 Thread Angus Lees
On Tue, Mar 05, 2002 at 05:51:16PM +0800, henry wrote: I want to print the first 5 characters in front of a definite word as follows: It's supposed that the definite word is AU. INPUT --aassewrab cdAUwst OUTPUT(I hope to get ) - -ab cd ($output) = $input =~ /(.{5})AU/;

[SLUG] Logging onto ftp.oracle.com failing

2002-03-07 Thread Antony Stace
Hi I need to get a patch for oracle, ftp://ftp.oracle.com/pub/www/otn/linux/glibcpatch.tgz It prompts for a username and password, I signed up and got one. However whenever I try and 1. ncftp -u myusername ftp.orcale.com 2. Enter this link into a Internet Explorer 6(All other browsers do

[SLUG] Re: Re: 'CUPS' deb pkg name ?

2002-03-07 Thread Angus Lees
On Thu, Mar 07, 2002 at 12:04:00PM +1100, Jamie Wilkinson wrote: This one time, at band camp, Angus Lees wrote: if you don't like dselect (and thats understandable), you could try deity-curses, deity-gtk or aptitude. Aptitude comes highly recommended by a while bunch of top Debian

[SLUG] Distributed passwords

2002-03-07 Thread Matt Hyne
Guys, I have number of linux boxes here and I want to only have one place that username/passwords are stored (for admin reasons). Rather than go the full overkill and set up NIS, is LDAP (or something else) a better alternative. Anyone with experience - any interesting links ? Matt --

Re: [SLUG] e-smith SME 5 and groupware

2002-03-07 Thread Jeff Allison
Domino (Notes) although like binari not free is the only one you mentioned that runs on Linux. - http://www.lotus.com/products/r5web.nsf/webpi/Domino+for+Linux?opendocument The Client does too under wine http://www.winecentric.com/notes5.shtml Jeff Allison Senior Domino Administrator Tokata

Re: [SLUG] Logging onto ftp.oracle.com failing

2002-03-07 Thread brad
On Fri, 2002-03-08 at 13:52, Antony Stace wrote: I need to get a patch for oracle, ftp://ftp.oracle.com/pub/www/otn/linux/glibcpatch.tgz It prompts for a username and password, I signed up and got one. However whenever I try and 1. ncftp -u myusername ftp.orcale.com Maybe try

Re: [SLUG] Laptop + Debian + no way to install it (help?).

2002-03-07 Thread Andy Eager
Grant Parnell wrote: On Tue, 5 Mar 2002, Ryan Verner wrote: Gidday... I'm wanting to configure my Toshiba Portege 3110CT to dual boot debian/win2k. At the moment its running XP (very, very bloddy slowly), and I have two partitions - a 4.5gig fat32 (c:), and a 1.2gig fat32 (d:). Basically, I

Re: [SLUG] Re: Re: 'CUPS' deb pkg name ?

2002-03-07 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Angus Lees since discovering this morning that aptitude now *does* detect new packages, i hereby publicly declare my switch from dselect to aptitude. Someone should do a talk on it at DebSIG, I still find it odd and hard to use. - Jeff -- I'm offering you my body, and

Re: [SLUG] Re: Re: 'CUPS' deb pkg name ?

2002-03-07 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Graeme Robinson On Fri, 8 Mar 2002, Jeff Waugh wrote: Someone should do a talk on it at DebSIG, I still find it odd and hard to wots DebSIG? some kind of user group? SLUG's Debian Special Interest Group. Basically started by Craige as an excuse to drink beer, espose Debian

Re: [SLUG] Re: Re: 'CUPS' deb pkg name ?

2002-03-07 Thread Tony Green
O Its on this wednesday (13th?) and it'll be a talk on getting debian running on a Compaq Ipaq handheld. Followed by On Fri, 2002-03-08 at 15:52, Jeff Waugh wrote: to drink beer, espose Debian beatnik and elitist ideals, and lose pool so he can run around the table with his pants

Re: [SLUG] Re: Re: 'CUPS' deb pkg name ?

2002-03-07 Thread Graeme Robinson
On Fri, 8 Mar 2002, Jeff Waugh wrote: SLUG's Debian Special Interest Group. Basically started by Craige as an excuse to drink beer, espose Debian beatnik and elitist ideals, and lose pool so he can run around the table with his pants around his ankles. Mmm - not sure about the elitist ideals

Re: [SLUG] Re: Re: 'CUPS' deb pkg name ?

2002-03-07 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Graeme Robinson Mmm - not sure about the elitist ideals (do elitists have ideals?) but Debian beatnik beer drinking and pool playing sounds like fun. Are meetings announced somewhere? The SLUG list, and SLUG announce, although reminders are often late or forgotten (amongst the

Re: [SLUG] How this for a simple recommendation for IP-Tables firewalling and ICS

2002-03-07 Thread Anand Kumria
On Tue, Mar 05, 2002 at 04:55:50PM +1100, DaZZa wrote: On Tue, 5 Mar 2002, Andy Eager wrote: Certainly pretty good as far as a basic explanation goes, problem is that masquerading is not yet up to the level of ipchains and thats what most people want. (One IP address, masqueraded to many

[SLUG] Re: Distributed passwords

2002-03-07 Thread Angus Lees
On Fri, Mar 08, 2002 at 02:02:53PM +1100, Matt Hyne wrote: Guys, I have number of linux boxes here and I want to only have one place that username/passwords are stored (for admin reasons). Rather than go the full overkill and set up NIS, is LDAP (or something else) a better alternative. why

Re: [SLUG] Distributed passwords

2002-03-07 Thread Anand Kumria
On Fri, Mar 08, 2002 at 02:02:53PM +1100, Matt Hyne wrote: Guys, I have number of linux boxes here and I want to only have one place that username/passwords are stored (for admin reasons). Rather than go the full overkill and set up NIS, is LDAP (or something else) a better alternative.

Re: [SLUG] Distributed passwords

2002-03-07 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Fri, 8 Mar 2002, Matt Hyne wrote: Guys, I have number of linux boxes here and I want to only have one place that username/passwords are stored (for admin reasons). Rather than go the full overkill and set up NIS, is LDAP (or something else) a better alternative. Anyone with experience

Re: [SLUG] Re: Re: 'CUPS' deb pkg name ?

2002-03-07 Thread Jamie Wilkinson
This one time, at band camp, Graeme Robinson wrote: On Fri, 8 Mar 2002, Jeff Waugh wrote: Someone should do a talk on it at DebSIG, I still find it odd and hard to wots DebSIG? some kind of user group? There's been at least 5 posts to this list advertising it... -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [SLUG] Laptop + Debian + no way to install it (help?).

2002-03-07 Thread Henry T Wijaya
- Original Message - From: Andy Eager [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, March 8, 2002 3:25 pm Subject: Re: [SLUG] Laptop + Debian + no way to install it (help?). Grant Parnell wrote: On Tue, 5 Mar 2002, Ryan Verner wrote: Gidday... I'm wanting to configure my Toshiba Portege