[SLUG] Distro for new users

2007-01-30 Thread Stephen Black
When installing Linux my biggest concern is always Will it connect to the internet? As a new user I can say that connecting to the internet has been the hardest part of using Linux So may I suggest that whatever distro they use don't help them connect to the internet. The second trick when

Re: [SLUG] ssh and vnc

2007-01-30 Thread Alan L Tyree
On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 18:27:04 +1100 Amos Shapira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 30/01/07, Alan L Tyree [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The frustrating thing is that I can't find any significant difference between the Xubuntu configuration files and the Ubuntu ones that behave perfectly. Let's

Re: [SLUG] ssh and vnc

2007-01-30 Thread Amos Shapira
On 31/01/07, Alan L Tyree [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On the remote Xubuntu (Misty), logged in with ssh -X: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo netstat -tlp Active Internet connections (only servers) Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address Foreign Address State PID/Program name tcp0 0

Re: [SLUG] ssh and vnc

2007-01-30 Thread Alan L Tyree
On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 07:39:02 +1100 Amos Shapira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 31/01/07, Alan L Tyree [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On the remote Xubuntu (Misty), logged in with ssh -X: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo netstat -tlp Active Internet connections (only servers) Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local

Re: Re: [SLUG] ssh and vnc

2007-01-30 Thread mxcarr
Sorry to jump in here late, I haven;t looked at the whole thread. Have you already checked your sshd_config on the machine you are ssh'ing to You need to have: X11Forwarding yes -- default is NO X11UseLocalhost yes you can also get around it with: AllowTcpForwarding yes-- I

Re: Re: [SLUG] ssh and vnc

2007-01-30 Thread Amos Shapira
On 31/01/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you can also get around it with: AllowTcpForwarding yes-- I assume the default of this is no as well. I forgot about that one but the manual says that the default is yes. You still need to enable the X11Forwarding which is a

Re: [SLUG] ssh and vnc

2007-01-30 Thread Alan L Tyree
On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 09:36:57 +1100 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry to jump in here late, I haven;t looked at the whole thread. Have you already checked your sshd_config on the machine you are ssh'ing to You need to have: X11Forwarding yes -- default is NO X11UseLocalhost yes

Re: [SLUG] ssh and vnc

2007-01-30 Thread Alan L Tyree
On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 09:54:30 +1100 Amos Shapira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 31/01/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you can also get around it with: AllowTcpForwarding yes-- I assume the default of this is no as well. I forgot about that one but the manual says that

Re: [SLUG] ssh and vnc

2007-01-30 Thread Amos Shapira
On 31/01/07, Alan L Tyree [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fooling around with that now. The man page says that output is sent to the system log (which I presume is /var/log/syslog). It doesn't seem to be doing that. However, it runs through lots of ports (Not sure where it starts since I can't scroll

Re: [SLUG] ssh and vnc

2007-01-30 Thread Alan L Tyree
On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 10:40:03 +1100 Amos Shapira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 31/01/07, Alan L Tyree [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fooling around with that now. The man page says that output is sent to the system log (which I presume is /var/log/syslog). It doesn't seem to be doing that.

Re: [SLUG] ssh and vnc

2007-01-30 Thread Amos Shapira
On 31/01/07, Alan L Tyree [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But I don't know what to make of it. What about the rest of my message below? (copied again) Googling about, http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=openssh-unix-devm=104336969724537w=2 looks closest to your situation - do you have the loopback

Re: [SLUG] Distro for new users

2007-01-30 Thread jam
On Wednesday 31 January 2007 05:49, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When installing Linux my biggest concern is always Will it connect to the internet? As a new user I can say that connecting to the internet has been the hardest part of using Linux So may I suggest that whatever distro they use don't

Re: [SLUG] ssh and vnc

2007-01-30 Thread Alan L Tyree
On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 11:05:08 +1100 Amos Shapira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 31/01/07, Alan L Tyree [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But I don't know what to make of it. What about the rest of my message below? (copied again) Ooops, missed that. I'll try it. Googling about,

Re: [SLUG] Distro for new users

2007-01-30 Thread jam
On Wednesday 31 January 2007 05:49, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] As for connecting to the Internet - no probs with BB or LAN - I haven't use dialup in years.  Wifi is another thing though but I now have it down to a fine art whether it be DLink USB, Ralink miniPCI, or Netgear PCI with TI

Re: [SLUG] Distro for new users

2007-01-30 Thread Amos Shapira
On 31/01/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And you can save me a 15min drive to test: I've just setup a Dlink 604T for my sister. Everything OUT is allowed in the filter setup. is ESTABLISHED,RELATED permitted back or do I have to explicitly allow WWW, MAIL and SSH back? (There are

Re: [SLUG] ssh and vnc

2007-01-30 Thread Alan L Tyree
On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 11:05:08 +1100 Amos Shapira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 31/01/07, Alan L Tyree [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But I don't know what to make of it. What about the rest of my message below? (copied again) Googling about,

Re: [SLUG] ssh and vnc

2007-01-30 Thread Amos Shapira
On 31/01/07, Alan L Tyree [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That may be it: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ifconfig eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:11:24:92:E1:91 UP BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:294

Re: [SLUG] Distro for new users

2007-01-30 Thread jam
On Wednesday 31 January 2007 10:00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And you can save me a 15min drive to test: I've just setup a Dlink 604T for my sister. Everything OUT is allowed in the filter setup. is ESTABLISHED,RELATED permitted back or do I have to explicitly allow WWW, MAIL and SSH

Re: [SLUG] ssh and vnc

2007-01-30 Thread Alan L Tyree
On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 12:06:22 +1100 Amos Shapira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 31/01/07, Alan L Tyree [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That may be it: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ifconfig eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:11:24:92:E1:91 UP BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1

Re: [SLUG] Re: Installing Nvidia card

2007-01-30 Thread Steven O'Reilly
Patrick When I did the same thing on an Intel board there was a BIOS option for whether the AGP or PCI should be the first/primary video device (the one that gets all the start up messages) there was also the option to disable the on-board video. If you have two monitors you will see which is

[SLUG] Where/how to buy a Linux desktop?

2007-01-30 Thread Martin Pool
I'm thinking about buying a (mostly) Linux desktop machine. It doesn't have to be really remarkable except that I would like dual DVI outputs. I don't mind installing it myself or doing some research on exactly what is supported or good value but simpler is better. So what would you do? Some

Re: [SLUG] Where/how to buy a Linux desktop?

2007-01-30 Thread Erik de Castro Lopo
Martin Pool wrote: I'm thinking about buying a (mostly) Linux desktop machine. It doesn't have to be really remarkable except that I would like dual DVI outputs. I don't mind installing it myself or doing some research on exactly what is supported or good value but simpler is better. So