Re: [SLUG] Australian government to censor your internets

2009-12-16 Thread meryl
In addition to getting involved in the EFA's campaign http://nocleanfeed.com you can subscribe to their lists to stay informed (there are familiar SLUG names there too!) http://www.efa.org.au/about/lists/ http://libertus.net/ and http://sites.google.com/site/filtermenot/home have additional

Re: [SLUG] Australian government to censor your internets

2009-12-16 Thread Marghanita da Cruz
meryl wrote: In addition to getting involved in the EFA's campaign http://nocleanfeed.com you can subscribe to their lists to stay informed (there are familiar SLUG names there too!) http://www.efa.org.au/about/lists/ http://libertus.net/ and http://sites.google.com/site/filtermenot/home have

Re: [SLUG] Australian government to censor your internets

2009-12-16 Thread Mike
The no clean feed group have a template for a letter on their site I think, I'll try to dig it up later. I think this is very relevant to us as linux/open source/free software users, if we follow the philosophy free as in freedom, not fee as in beer then that should go not only for the os

Re: [SLUG] Australian government to censor your internets

2009-12-16 Thread CaT
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 09:02:52AM +1100, Mike wrote: The no clean feed group have a template for a letter on their site I think, I'll try to dig it up later. http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/12/16/dont-waste-your-time-waste-theirs-a-guide-to-writing-to-ministers/ May (or may not) be of use.

Re: [SLUG] Google Chrome for Linux !!!

2009-12-16 Thread Terry Dawson
Erik de Castro Lopo wrote: Well maybe it should have defaulted to a more restrictive scheme rather than a less restrictive scheme. I agree with that. The default should have been to move to next most restrictive option in each case. Terry -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List -

Re: [SLUG] Australian government to censor your internets

2009-12-16 Thread Scott Finneran
jam wrote: I'm not sure if this belongs here, sorry if it doesn't. Well looks like the government got it's way. Our Internet will be censored next year. http://www.minister.dbcde.gov.au/media/media_releases/2009/115 I wrote to Conroy talking about proxies and ssh tunnels and received

[SLUG] Re: Tear down the great firewall

2009-12-16 Thread David Andresen
Hey y'all Sign the petition, http://www.getup.org.au/campaign/SaveTheNetid=892 ddave On Thu, 2009-12-17 at 12:00 +1100, slug-requ...@slug.org.au wrote: Send slug mailing list submissions to slug@slug.org.au To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit

Re: [SLUG] Re: Tear down the great firewall

2009-12-16 Thread Daniel Pittman
David Andresen da...@hayday.biz writes: Sign the petition, http://www.getup.org.au/campaign/SaveTheNetid=892 A list of better things to do, which are more likely to influence the legislation than a petition, is here: http://nocleanfeed.com/action.html While petitions are nice and all, their

Re: [SLUG] Australian government to censor your internets

2009-12-16 Thread Ben Donohue
Don't pirates kidnap people and hold them for ransom, therefore denying their freedom? Anyway, I for one don't mind the Gov't filtering out child porn and all the other crap that tries to get my attention. There is so much good stuff out there that I can fill my mind with that rather than

Re: [SLUG] Australian government to censor your internets

2009-12-16 Thread Jill Brown
Not heard that one before. Ben Donohue wrote: Don't pirates kidnap people and hold them for ransom, therefore denying their freedom? -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html

Re: [SLUG] Australian government to censor your internets

2009-12-16 Thread Adam Kennedy
Is anyone aware of any groups taking more direct technical action against this proposal? I'm more of a builder of things than a talker, and it occurs to me that if the scope of potential blocking is as wide as it (naively, to me) appears to be (and based on comments such as 80% of the 95 million

Re: [SLUG] Australian government to censor your internets

2009-12-16 Thread Dean Hamstead
Anyone heard of actual protests? Dean Adam Kennedy wrote: Is anyone aware of any groups taking more direct technical action against this proposal? I'm more of a builder of things than a talker, and it occurs to me that if the scope of potential blocking is as wide as it (naively, to me)

Re: [SLUG] Australian government to censor your internets

2009-12-16 Thread Marghanita da Cruz
Dean Hamstead wrote: Anyone heard of actual protests? there is/was this... Aussie Gamers all around the country are preparing to take to the streets this Saturday to protest the lack of an R18+ rating for video games in Australia

Re: [SLUG] Australian government to censor your internets

2009-12-16 Thread Heracles
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ben Donohue wrote: Don't pirates kidnap people and hold them for ransom, therefore denying their freedom? Anyway, I for one don't mind the Gov't filtering out child porn and all the other crap that tries to get my attention. There is so much

Re: [SLUG] Australian government to censor your internets

2009-12-16 Thread Adam Kennedy
I'm sure it wouldn't be QUITE that simple, but for 100 lines of code I'm sure you could modify that to search for beastiality or Left 4 Dead 2 US Edition, scrape the front page to validate it a bit, then submit. But like I said, doing it properly would mean a bit more co-ordination... Adam K On

Re: [SLUG] Australian government to censor your internets

2009-12-16 Thread Daniel Pittman
Adam Kennedy a...@ali.as writes: I'm sure it wouldn't be QUITE that simple, but for 100 lines of code I'm sure you could modify that to search for beastiality or Left 4 Dead 2 US Edition, scrape the front page to validate it a bit, then submit. But like I said, doing it properly would mean

Re: [SLUG] Australian government to censor your internets

2009-12-16 Thread David Lloyd
Why would we need to bother writing something ourselves? 1. Go to google 2. Type in something likely to get bad content (eg. sex) 3. Submit EVERY SINGLE result to the list arbitrators (Reasoning: well, clearly WE don't know what's classified - if we did, why would we need the Government to

Re: [SLUG] Australian government to censor your internets

2009-12-16 Thread Marghanita da Cruz
Daniel Pittman wrote: Adam Kennedy a...@ali.as writes: I'm sure it wouldn't be QUITE that simple, but for 100 lines of code I'm sure you could modify that to search for beastiality or Left 4 Dead 2 US Edition, scrape the front page to validate it a bit, then submit. But like I said, doing it

Re: [SLUG] Australian government to censor your internets

2009-12-16 Thread meryl
Heracles is right. The Filtering problem is more about stifling freedoms of speech and censoring the Net than it is about blocking child porn, and it is bound to be extended into other areas so freedom of speech will become a thing of the past for us in Australia. Apart from slowing down our

Re: [SLUG] Australian government to censor your internets

2009-12-16 Thread Adam Kennedy
After a quick scan through the restricted classification database on the censors site, from which it appears that detailed instructions on the production of homemade gun silencers is rated RC, I managed to find a random YouTube video showing such details, and submitted it to see what the process

Re: [SLUG] Australian government to censor your internets

2009-12-16 Thread Robert Collins
On Thu, 2009-12-17 at 16:08 +1100, Adam Kennedy wrote: Is anyone aware of any groups taking more direct technical action against this proposal? .. I'm pondering the idea of automating the web trawling process to find NC content, and then just submit all 100 million NC content URLs to the

Re: [SLUG] Australian government to censor your internets

2009-12-16 Thread Adam Kennedy
I'm not suggesting this be the ONLY way of dealing with the issue. If it's possibly to at least remove all the excuses that it's cheap and easy, and demonstrate an ongoing series of high profile false positives, and the resulting latency issues, and that the whole thing is ungodly expensive.

Re: [SLUG] Australian government to censor your internets

2009-12-16 Thread Robert Collins
On Thu, 2009-12-17 at 18:24 +1100, Adam Kennedy wrote: I'm not suggesting this be the ONLY way of dealing with the issue. If it's possibly to at least remove all the excuses that it's cheap and easy, and demonstrate an ongoing series of high profile false positives, and the resulting latency