Re: Re[2]: [SLUG] sendmail banning no reverse dns

2002-12-05 Thread David Fitch
On Thu, 2002-12-05 at 13:17, evilbunny wrote: > Hello David, > DF> you might not be able to control the reverse mapping but it > DF> should still map to something - which is good enough. > DF> Are there co-lo places where the IP doesn't reverse map to > DF> anything? and if so, why? (apart from i

Re: [SLUG] sendmail banning no reverse dns

2002-12-04 Thread David
I don't think it's off topic either.. i've been following closely On Thu, 5 Dec 2002, David Fitch wrote: > On Thu, Dec 05, 2002 at 01:26:47PM +1100, Tony Green wrote: > > On Thu, 2002-12-05 at 13:21, David Fitch wrote: > > > you could argue that it's not a "legimate mail server" > > > if it doe

Re[2]: [SLUG] sendmail banning no reverse dns

2002-12-04 Thread evilbunny
Hello David, DF> you might not be able to control the reverse mapping but it DF> should still map to something - which is good enough. DF> Are there co-lo places where the IP doesn't reverse map to DF> anything? and if so, why? (apart from incompetence DF> or cluelessness) Neither, it's to do

Re: [SLUG] sendmail banning no reverse dns

2002-12-04 Thread David Fitch
On Thu, Dec 05, 2002 at 01:26:47PM +1100, Tony Green wrote: > On Thu, 2002-12-05 at 13:21, David Fitch wrote: > > you could argue that it's not a "legimate mail server" > > if it doesn't reverse resolve. > > Are there valid reasons why they wouldn't reverse resolve? > > What if you house your mach

Re: [SLUG] sendmail banning no reverse dns

2002-12-04 Thread Tony Green
On Thu, 2002-12-05 at 13:21, David Fitch wrote: > you could argue that it's not a "legimate mail server" > if it doesn't reverse resolve. > Are there valid reasons why they wouldn't reverse resolve? > What if you house your machines at a co-lo site? You're allocated an IP and you can't control t

Re: [SLUG] sendmail banning no reverse dns

2002-12-04 Thread David Fitch
On Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 01:18:27PM +1100, Crossfire wrote: > Kevin Waterson was once rumoured to have said: > > How is it possible to ban all mail from addresses that > > do not reverse lookup? > > This is not always a good idea - not every legimate mail server has a > valid reverse lookup address

Re: [SLUG] sendmail banning no reverse dns

2002-12-03 Thread Kevin Waterson
This one time, at band camp, Tony Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > spamassassin is your friend and will be more reliable than throwing away > mail before it even arrives We are using spamassassin Kevin -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.fsf.org/philo

Re: [SLUG] sendmail banning no reverse dns

2002-12-03 Thread kevin
Plus you could consider giving sendmail the flick and install postfix with spamassassin. :) Have a look at postfix at http://postfix.org > On Wed, 2002-12-04 at 13:27, Kevin Waterson wrote: > > This one time, at band camp, > > Crossfire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > This is not always a go

Re[2]: [SLUG] sendmail banning no reverse dns

2002-12-03 Thread evilbunny
Hello Crossfire, C> I consider the chance of losing legimate mail to be far worse than C> failing to stop spam. C> Spamassassin is quite useful in this role - and I'm sure you can write C> it a rule to perform this test. A lot of co-lo servers have no choice in the matter, you can always add an

Re: [SLUG] sendmail banning no reverse dns

2002-12-03 Thread Tony Green
On Wed, 2002-12-04 at 13:23, Malcolm V wrote: > After running the above through m4 I got: > > Sendmail by default does not accept mail from hosts that do not reverse > lookup. To accept mail from these hosts the following feature must be > enabled; > FEATURE(`accept_unresolvable_domains') > > Thi

Re: [SLUG] sendmail banning no reverse dns

2002-12-03 Thread Crossfire
Kevin Waterson was once rumoured to have said: > This one time, at band camp, > Crossfire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > This is not always a good idea - not every legimate mail server has a > > valid reverse lookup address. (Certainly, the ones in evilhouse > > don't). > > I know the down sid

Re: [SLUG] sendmail banning no reverse dns

2002-12-03 Thread Tony Green
On Wed, 2002-12-04 at 13:27, Kevin Waterson wrote: > This one time, at band camp, > Crossfire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > This is not always a good idea - not every legimate mail server has a > > valid reverse lookup address. (Certainly, the ones in evilhouse > > don't). > > I know the down

Re: [SLUG] sendmail banning no reverse dns

2002-12-03 Thread Malcolm V
On Wed, 2002-12-04 at 12:52, Tony Green wrote: > On Wed, 2002-12-04 at 12:54, Kevin Waterson wrote: > > How is it possible to ban all mail from addresses that > > do not reverse lookup? > > > > It should by default, disabled by > FEATURE(`accept_unresolvable_domains')dnl > > in your sendmail.mc

Re: [SLUG] sendmail banning no reverse dns

2002-12-03 Thread Kevin Waterson
This one time, at band camp, Crossfire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is not always a good idea - not every legimate mail server has a > valid reverse lookup address. (Certainly, the ones in evilhouse > don't). I know the down side, but the amount of spam from non reversed addresses is greate

Re: [SLUG] sendmail banning no reverse dns

2002-12-03 Thread Crossfire
Kevin Waterson was once rumoured to have said: > How is it possible to ban all mail from addresses that > do not reverse lookup? This is not always a good idea - not every legimate mail server has a valid reverse lookup address. (Certainly, the ones in evilhouse don't). C. -- --

Re: [SLUG] sendmail banning no reverse dns

2002-12-03 Thread Anand Kumria
On Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 12:54:14PM +1100, Kevin Waterson wrote: > How is it possible to ban all mail from addresses that > do not reverse lookup? > /etc/hosts.deny smtp: PARANOID or maybe PARANOID: smtp Anand -- `` We are shaped by our thoughts, we become what we think. When the mind is p

Re: [SLUG] sendmail banning no reverse dns

2002-12-03 Thread Tony Green
On Wed, 2002-12-04 at 12:54, Kevin Waterson wrote: > How is it possible to ban all mail from addresses that > do not reverse lookup? > It should by default, disabled by FEATURE(`accept_unresolvable_domains')dnl in your sendmail.mc -- Tony Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Tel : +61-(0)4-2521-9

[SLUG] sendmail banning no reverse dns

2002-12-03 Thread Kevin Waterson
How is it possible to ban all mail from addresses that do not reverse lookup? Kind regards Kevin -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html Kevin Waterson Byron Bay, Australia -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http:/