Re: [SLUG] spam filters not working

2004-05-07 Thread Angus Lees
At Fri, 7 May 2004 11:04:55 +1000, Mary Gardiner wrote: I train it on all my spam and non-spam, and I train it every week on mail received during that week. (With a cronjob, I just need to make sure false negatives and positives are moved into an appropriate folder.) I don't delete the

Re: [SLUG] spam filters not working

2004-05-07 Thread Mary Gardiner
On Sat, May 08, 2004, Angus Lees wrote: .. so with all that manual spam/ham classification/archiving, is there actually any point running an automatic spam filter anymore? Well, depends on what you mean by all that. About three times a week, a mail ends up in the wrong folder. (That's an error

Re: [SLUG] spam filters not working

2004-05-07 Thread Jamie Wilkinson
This one time, at band camp, Angus Lees wrote: At Fri, 7 May 2004 11:04:55 +1000, Mary Gardiner wrote: I train it on all my spam and non-spam, and I train it every week on mail received during that week. (With a cronjob, I just need to make sure false negatives and positives are moved into an

Re: [SLUG] spam filters not working

2004-05-06 Thread Patrick Lesslie
On Fri, May 07, 2004 at 11:52:30AM +1000, James Gregory wrote: On Thu, 2004-05-06 at 23:36 +1000, Nicholas Tomlin wrote: How can we get a spam filter to check for misspelt words and reject the mail on that basis? I thought about this a while ago. It would be relatively easy to implement

Re: [SLUG] spam filters not working

2004-05-06 Thread Mary Gardiner
On Fri, May 07, 2004, James Gregory wrote: 2. For any significant misspellings of words, bogofilter will already look for them. The Language Log says there are 1,300,925,111,156,286,160,896 possible creative mispellings of Viagra alone.

[SLUG] spam filters not working

2004-05-06 Thread Nicholas Tomlin
Hell sluggers, I´ve noticed the amount of mail bypassing the filters seems to be increasing and would like to venture an idea... Most of the mails that get through are misspelt to put the filter off the track. eg, Some that got through: { Ur Diicky Is So Smaall horsemeat digenesis Darlin how

Re: [SLUG] spam filters not working

2004-05-06 Thread David
Since changing to bogofilter (plus stringent training), my spam filtering is near on perfect. I've had one only slip through this week. I've written a crude script to make training easier. You didn't tell us which spam filter, but spamassassin was catching less than 50% spams when I stopped

Re: [SLUG] spam filters not working

2004-05-06 Thread Terry Collins
David wrote: ...snip.. You didn't tell us which spam filter, but spamassassin was catching less than 50% spams when I stopped using it. Is it worthwhile to retrain your spam filters when the nature of spam changes? Just wondering. -- Terry Collins {:-)}}} email: terryc at woa.com.au

Re: [SLUG] spam filters not working

2004-05-06 Thread John Clarke
On Fri, May 07, 2004 at 09:43:06AM +1000, Terry Collins wrote: Is it worthwhile to retrain your spam filters when the nature of spam changes? Yes. A month or so ago spamassassin's success rate suddenly plummeted. After retraining, it's back to normal -- missing only one or two or the

Re: [SLUG] spam filters not working

2004-05-06 Thread Mary Gardiner
On Fri, May 07, 2004, David wrote: You didn't tell us which spam filter, but spamassassin was catching less than 50% spams when I stopped using it. SpamAssassin has Bayesian filtering too these days. People who are already using it should probably try its sa-learn utility before jumping spam

Re: [SLUG] spam filters not working

2004-05-06 Thread James Gregory
On Thu, 2004-05-06 at 23:36 +1000, Nicholas Tomlin wrote: Hell sluggers, I´ve noticed the amount of mail bypassing the filters seems to be increasing and would like to venture an idea... Most of the mails that get through are misspelt to put the filter off the track. eg, Some that

Re: [SLUG] spam filters not working

2004-05-06 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=James Gregory How can we get a spam filter to check for misspelt words and reject the mail on that basis? I thought about this a while ago. It would be relatively easy to implement -- just hook aspell into a procmail rule. I eventually came to two conclusions: 1. I would

Re: [SLUG] spam filters not working

2004-05-06 Thread Dean Hamstead
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jeff Waugh wrote: | quote who=James Gregory | |How can we get a spam filter to check for misspelt words and reject the |mail on that basis? | |I thought about this a while ago. It would be relatively easy to implement |-- just hook aspell into a

Re: [SLUG] spam filters not working

2004-05-06 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Dean Hamstead but restricting spam based on english spelling would be terrible There are lots of spelling modules and dictionaries out there - who said anything about English? Spelling fascists come in EVERY LANGUAGE (that you can write, at least). - Jeff -- GVADEC 2004: