Re: [SLUG] hard drive choices

2002-10-28 Thread Paul L Daniels
Hands up who has seen the infamous hda: interrupt lost kernel error message? You've just hard-reset your PC, because it seemed to be frozen, Hey! I always wondered about that one... time for me to now add that to the list of items to look out for. Thanks for that. Perhaps it's time to up

Re: [SLUG] hard drive choices

2002-10-27 Thread Matthew Dalton
Brian Martin wrote: Is there any consensus on brands/models of hard drives to avoid ? or that are recommended ? e.g. known lemons or known dependable models, or are they all much the same in quality dependability ? Sorry if not strictly linux centred, but a search of the SLUG archives

RE: [SLUG] hard drive choices

2002-10-27 Thread Marty Richards
Title: RE: [SLUG] hard drive choices Modern Fujitsu drives tend to have a very strong reputation. I've even hauled a couple from Africa to Europe and then back here into Oz without any problems. As for warranties... most companies are now settling for a 1 year warranty

Re: [SLUG] hard drive choices

2002-10-27 Thread Paul L Daniels
The unofficial figure on those was a 30% failure rate. (theregister.co.uk has details on this from about a month ago) Guess that goes to prove the comments previously that all manufacturers tend to have 'lemons' produced now and then. Quantums are not good - been replacing lots of them

Re: [SLUG] hard drive choices

2002-10-27 Thread Tom
Daniels [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Marty Richards [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 1:27 PM Subject: Re: [SLUG] hard drive choices The unofficial figure on those was a 30% failure rate. (theregister.co.uk has details on this from about a month ago) Guess

Re: [SLUG] hard drive choices

2002-10-27 Thread Paul L Daniels
We basically seem to all come down to the same thing... there's a high level of 'unreliability' involved in modern hard drives. The next logical question is to ask, what is the form of the failures? Anyone give some opinions? Are we seeing an increase in IDE controller failures ( on HDD ) or

Re: [SLUG] hard drive choices

2002-10-27 Thread Tom
1:43 PM Subject: Re: [SLUG] hard drive choices We basically seem to all come down to the same thing... there's a high level of 'unreliability' involved in modern hard drives. The next logical question is to ask, what is the form of the failures? Anyone give some opinions? Are we seeing

Re: [SLUG] hard drive choices

2002-10-27 Thread Matthew Hannigan
On Mon, Oct 28, 2002 at 01:41:25PM +1100, Tom wrote: i have had an absolute shocker with seagate drives. i like their scsi drives but as far as IDE goes, NO WAY. as was said in a previous post - IDE reliability is basically a thing of the past. I had heard that ide drives were pretty much the

Re: [SLUG] hard drive choices

2002-10-27 Thread Tom
]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 2:17 PM Subject: Re: [SLUG] hard drive choices On Mon, Oct 28, 2002 at 01:41:25PM +1100, Tom wrote: i have had an absolute shocker with seagate drives. i like their scsi drives but as far as IDE goes, NO WAY. as was said in a previous post - IDE

Re: [SLUG] hard drive choices

2002-10-27 Thread Tony Green
On Mon, 2002-10-28 at 13:59, Tom wrote: im seeing a lot of physical failures. many broken heads, particularly on the seagate drives i have used. i rang up seagate personally and they denied they had a problem with the drives and it must have been the circumstances i was using the drive in.

RE: [SLUG] hard drive choices

2002-10-27 Thread Brett Fenton
Message- : From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] : [mailto:slug-admin;slug.org.au]On Behalf Of : Tom : Sent: Monday, 28 October 2002 2:32 PM : To: Matthew Hannigan : Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] : Subject: Re: [SLUG] hard drive choices : : : well ive got a couple scsi's at home : they get switche on and off quite a bit

Re: [SLUG] hard drive choices

2002-10-27 Thread Tom
, civilize and sterilize you. -F. Scott Fitzgerald- - Original Message - From: Brett Fenton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 2:43 PM Subject: RE: [SLUG] hard drive choices I think it's exactly the other way around. High

RE: [SLUG] hard drive choices

2002-10-27 Thread Tiwari, Rajnish
!! ::-Original Message- ::From: Tom [mailto:hyperbola;optusnet.com.au] ::Sent: Monday, 28 October 2002 1:59 PM ::To: Paul L Daniels ::Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ::Subject: Re: [SLUG] hard drive choices :: :: ::im seeing a lot of physical failures. ::many broken heads, particularly

Re: [SLUG] hard drive choices

2002-10-26 Thread mlh
Brian Martin wrote: Certain IBM drives 60gxp, 75gxp? had a bad reputation. not sure how deserved it was. APC had a hard drive review recently, certain Western Digital drives came out both quietest and fastest. I've been very happy with my Maxtor 40 and 80Gb drives. Regards, Matt -- SLUG -

Re: [SLUG] hard drive choices

2002-10-26 Thread Michael Still
On Sun, 27 Oct 2002, mlh wrote: I've been very happy with my Maxtor 40 and 80Gb drives. I'd look at the warranty conditions -- for instance, the Quantum Maxtor warranties weren't nearly as the Seagates when I last looked... Mikal -- Michael Still ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) UTC +10 hours --

Re: [SLUG] hard drive choices

2002-10-26 Thread Howard Lowndes
On Sun, 27 Oct 2002, Michael Still wrote: On Sun, 27 Oct 2002, mlh wrote: I've been very happy with my Maxtor 40 and 80Gb drives. I'd look at the warranty conditions -- for instance, the Quantum Maxtor warranties weren't nearly as the Seagates when I last looked... I never bother with the

Re: [SLUG] hard drive choices

2002-10-26 Thread Tony Green
On Sun, 2002-10-27 at 08:14, mlh wrote: Brian Martin wrote: Certain IBM drives 60gxp, 75gxp? had a bad reputation. not sure how deserved it was. Worst drives I've ever used (IMHO). I've had 5 fail in production boxen in the last 6 months. Very nasty problems, you hear the click of death

Re: [SLUG] hard drive choices

2002-10-26 Thread Terry Collins
Brian Martin wrote: Is there any consensus on brands/models of hard drives to avoid ? or that are recommended ? It depends. Over time, all companies have managed to produce lemons. I was buying on the basis of warranty (if I had a choice), but most are cutting back to 1 yr again. --

Re: [SLUG] hard drive choices

2002-10-26 Thread Paul L Daniels
Modern Fujitsu drives tend to have a very strong reputation. I've even hauled a couple from Africa to Europe and then back here into Oz without any problems. As for warranties... most companies are now settling for a 1 year warranty, with a couple leaving their 3 year warranties intact for

Re: [SLUG] hard drive choices

2002-10-26 Thread Richard Neal
On Sun, 2002-10-27 at 10:57, Paul L Daniels wrote: Modern Fujitsu drives tend to have a very strong reputation. I've even hauled a couple from Africa to Europe and then back here into Oz without any problems. As for warranties... most companies are now settling for a 1 year warranty, with a