[RCSE] Test

2005-03-31 Thread ROBERT M GELLART
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[RCSE] Two Meter Alive in Midwest

2005-03-31 Thread Dennis Hoyle
Two Meter flyer's looking for a challenge, look no further. For 25 years West Michigan soaring enthusiasts have held a great 2-Meter Seeded Man-0n-Man (MOM) contest. This year we are going all out. The Midwest 2-Meter RC Soaring Championships are being held August 20 and 21, 2005 at the WMSS

[RCSE] Test

2005-03-31 Thread Walter Carter
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[RCSE] Dodgson kits on eBay

2005-03-31 Thread Mark Wales
2 Dodgson Pivots on eBay!! Mark Soaring Is Life!! RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web

RE: [RCSE] Dodgson kits on eBay

2005-03-31 Thread Douglas, Brent
I moved PCs, and I lost my 'good' ebay search Anyone have a sample of what they use to watch Ebay for gliders / electrics / radios? Just curious, I watch always, buy maybe once a year - just find that I miss looking... Thanks, Brent RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News.

[RCSE] (Ohio) sloping today?

2005-03-31 Thread Douglas, Brent
Just got back from an extended lunch, wondered if anyone else got out and did any sloping? It's in the 20-25mph range here today, and I got a chance to fly a NorthCounty M60 - much nicer than doing software installs / debugging. Was windy and warm enough here to make the front side (here that

RE: [RCSE] Dodgson kits on eBay

2005-03-31 Thread Dan
eBay: http://search-desc.ebay.com/sailplane-glider_Radio-Control_W0QQfclZ1QQftsZ2QQsacatZ2562QQsatitleZQ28sailplaneQ2cQ20gliderQ29"Douglas, Brent" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I moved PCs, and I lost my 'good' ebay search Anyone have a sampleof what they use to watch Ebay for gliders / electrics /

[RCSE] Signal strength switch?

2005-03-31 Thread John Erickson
We've has a couple of club members lose planes recently from interference. We have a scanner on the field. It shows a channel is on (sporadically) although all our pins/radios are accounted for. We suspect another flyer about a mile away but we've yet to find him. There are both houses and an

Re: [RCSE] Signal strength switch?

2005-03-31 Thread Bill Swingle
This is an idea I've had myself. A push button Signal Boost function. I like it. But no, I've not heard of it ever being mentioned. Besides it'd be illegal so no licensed tech could do it without risking his license. And I don't know how difficult it'd be to do without risking frying your

[RCSE] For sale Dodgson Designs Lovesong

2005-03-31 Thread A.B. Lyles
For sale Dodgson Lovesong (improved Windsong). This kit is in excellent condition. Will email pictures of the kit to anyone that is really interested and give you more info. I will mail this kit to you for $375.00 (Priority mail + insurance) Lower 48 States.These kits are very hard to

Re: [RCSE] Signal strength switch?

2005-03-31 Thread lomcovak
Fact: It is very unlikely anyone flying a mile away is adversely affecting anyone at your field, irregardless of the frequency. Remember...the receiver would need to see on-frequency RF that is equal or greater from the offending transmitter to gain control. There are many things that can

Re: [RCSE] Signal strength switch?

2005-03-31 Thread Ed Jett
I don't think this is what we want to do. It brings the wrong kind of image to others. Red flags may start flying instead of our planes. Lets go to spread spectrum technology. I believe that would get us away from the broadband over power line issue as well. But, I'm certainly no expert on

Re: [RCSE] Signal strength switch?

2005-03-31 Thread Tom H. Nagel
I want a Spinal Tap transmitter, with a knob that goes up to ELEVEN! Tom H. Nagel Columbus, OH - Original Message - From: Ed Jett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Soaring List Soaring@airage.com Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 3:30 PM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Signal strength switch? I don't think this

[RCSE] Re:Signal strength switch?

2005-03-31 Thread ama3655
Fact: It is very unlikely anyone flying a mile away is adversely affecting anyone at your field, irregardless of the frequency. Remember...the receiver would need to see on-frequency RF that is equal or greater from the offending transmitter to gain control. The above statement is

Re: [RCSE] Signal strength switch?

2005-03-31 Thread Jon Stone
Ed, The latest AMA magazine has an informative article on BPL. Jon - Original Message - From: Ed Jett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Soaring List Soaring@airage.com Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 2:30 PM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Signal strength switch? I don't think this is what we want to do.

RE: [RCSE] Re:Signal strength switch?

2005-03-31 Thread Bruce Hobbs
Rob, Thanks for a real-world empirical test / results. We also have an issue at our field in Austin, TX .not from nearby RC fields but from some mysterious high power source we think is sending data in concentrated bursts. Using sophisticated logging equipment we so far have been unable

Re: [RCSE] Signal strength switch?

2005-03-31 Thread Chuck Anderson
At 02:30 PM 3/31/2005, you wrote: I don't think this is what we want to do. It brings the wrong kind of image to others. Red flags may start flying instead of our planes. Lets go to spread spectrum technology. I believe that would get us away from the broadband over power line issue as well.

Re: [RCSE] Re:Signal strength switch?

2005-03-31 Thread lomcovak
Hi Rob, I too employ onboard pulse emission detectors. On every aircraft I have ever owned I observed/obaserve various counts in remote flying areas that would be considered RF-clean. It is possible that the aircraft used as the test bed is itself generating data, which will skew the final

Re: [RCSE] Signal strength switch?

2005-03-31 Thread James V. Bacus
We really need a better mechanism than 60 something shared frequencies. We need our own digital signatures, something like our own private channel. At 01:29 PM 3/31/2005, John Erickson wrote: We've has a couple of club members lose planes recently from interference. We have a scanner on the

Re: [RCSE] Signal strength switch?

2005-03-31 Thread miamimike
John Erickson wrote: Would it be possible to start your flight with reduced range (3/4 signal strength) and then flip to full strength in an emergency? If you're using a standard telescoping transmitter antenna, it will radiate the most energy from the side. The way to increase signal to your

[RCSE] Nitrile gloves

2005-03-31 Thread Rick Van Clief
I just bought a box of these and when I got them home discovered they were purple and not blue. Do purple nitrile gloves offer the same protection from epoxy as blue nitrile gloves are supposed to? Thanks. RVC RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and

Re: [RCSE] Signal strength switch?

2005-03-31 Thread dcopley
John, This isn't really an answer to your question but there is a great article in this months AMA Magazine about radio interference you should read up on. This might be or not your clubs problem. It has to do with the wireless internet junction boxes(?). Which send out a relay signal of power

Re: [RCSE] Signal strength switch?

2005-03-31 Thread Craig Greening
I've actually seen this function on a transmitter. I don't recall whether it was a factory item or the user added it, nor the brand but it was not a modern radio. Maybe Proline or Kraft. Seemed like a good thing to have but it ended up costing the owner an airplane when the button/switch was

Re: [RCSE] Signal strength switch?

2005-03-31 Thread Martin Usher
better yet, a way to boost signal strength? (John Erickson) I've been toying with this concept but it does have the drawback of being illegal. I'm also not sure the boost you could get by just tweaking the transmitter module would be enough to get the plane into control. We suspect another

[RCSE] Range testing with a rubber ducky

2005-03-31 Thread Dan Kitching
Does anyone on the exchange have any good information on performing a useful range test with a rubber ducky tx antenna? It obviously can't be collapsed the same way the stock telescoping antenna can, so it seems that the ritual might change somewhat. Thanks Dan RCSE-List facilities provided

Re: [RCSE] Signal strength switch?

2005-03-31 Thread Charles Frey
Sorry, my bad, I mean that the first couple hundred feet show more signal loss than the those last several hundred. And that actully supports my idea, not the other way around. Oops -Charles Charles Frey wrote: I believe the original proposal was to normally transmit at 1/2 or 3/4 power, and

[RCSE] Re: Signal Strength - Shadow 3

2005-03-31 Thread Dave Register
** I just received a Shadow 3 receiver and expect to check it out in my test model next week. I set it up on the bench and tested it with my Evo and Cockpit transmitters, both on channel 50. When both transmitters on, the servos get a little nervous but I still had sold control with the

Re: [RCSE] Signal strength switch?

2005-03-31 Thread Simon Van Leeuwen
Hi Martin, Martin Usher wrote: our radios have very little effective range at street level in a built-up area (but a lot more effective range above the houses and trees, that's why someone even a mile or more away can bring us down). How would the offending TX a mile away have more signal

Re: [RCSE] Signal strength switch?

2005-03-31 Thread Simon Van Leeuwen
grin...there is ample effective range with the systems we have nowmuch further thanyou can see. Most transmitters do not even operate near the FCC 250mW limit. I can see adding the panic button...and folks then leaving it on all the time (if a little is good, then)...only to demand a

Re: [RCSE] Re: Signal Strength - Shadow 3

2005-03-31 Thread Simon Van Leeuwen
Some may recall the Sky and Technology receiver I tested a year or so ago which has may best be termed smart reponse receiver. It uses algorythms that look for minute differences of the precise carrier frequency to determine whether the signal it is interpreting matches it's master

Re: [RCSE] Signal strength switch?

2005-03-31 Thread miamimike
Simon Van Leeuwen wrote: Most transmitters do not even operate near the FCC 250mW limit. 750 milliwatts. http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/get-cfr.cgi?TITLE=47PART=95SECTION=210YEAR=2000TYPE=TEXT or http://tinyurl.com/42ksy Mike -- Winch Solenoid Safety Buzzer -

Re: [RCSE] Signal strength switch?

2005-03-31 Thread Doug McLaren
On Thu, Mar 31, 2005 at 11:29:07AM -0800, John Erickson wrote: | We've has a couple of club members lose planes recently from | interference. Personally, I've seen interference blamed for a lot of user errors too. Not that this is the case in your situation, but ... | We have a scanner on the

Re: [RCSE] Signal strength switch?

2005-03-31 Thread Simon Van Leeuwen
Oops, thanks Mike... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Simon Van Leeuwen wrote: Most transmitters do not even operate near the FCC 250mW limit. 750 milliwatts. http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/get-cfr.cgi?TITLE=47PART=95SECTION=210YEAR=2000TYPE=TEXT or http://tinyurl.com/42ksy Mike -- Simon Van

Re: [RCSE] Re: Signal Strength - Shadow 3

2005-03-31 Thread Chuck Anderson
At 07:32 PM 3/31/2005, you wrote: I did something like this at the field the other day with my Shadow 3. Two Txs on Ch 16 simultaneously. The primary Tx (Fut9CH) varied in distance from the Rx. The secondary Tx (Fut7UGFS) was placed on the ground ~ 30 ft from the plane. Both had Rubby Ducky

Re: [RCSE] Re: Signal Strength - Shadow 3

2005-03-31 Thread Dave Register
My bench test of the Shadow 3 doesn't give the same results. My setup was using an Evo as the primary transmitter and a Cockpit as the secondary transmitter. Both on Channel 50. I turn on the Evo, then the Shadow receiver, and finally the Cockpit. With this setup, the Shadow is

Re: [RCSE] Club Winch Battery, Optima vs Trojan

2005-03-31 Thread James R MacLean
Rick, I like Trojan T-105 very much. It is 6 volt 225 AH. Designed for golf carts and produced in volume so price is good. Designed for heavy discharge. Regards, Jim MacLean RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [RCSE] Re: Signal Strength - Shadow 3

2005-03-31 Thread Simon Van Leeuwen
Hi Chuck, This indicates that it does have the smarts I eluded to, to decipher the unique signature of a specific TX. Do you know for sure? THe manual makes no mention... Chuck Anderson wrote: At 07:32 PM 3/31/2005, you wrote: I did something like this at the field the other day with my Shadow

RE: [RCSE] Signal strength switch?

2005-03-31 Thread Jon Stone
Simon wrote: I find it hard to imagine both system protocols working harmoniously as the local field. Why would they not work in harmony on the same field? Existing radios are on 72 Mhz. Existing SS radios use 900 Mhz and 2.4 Ghz. Are you assuming the powers that be might grant spread

Re: [RCSE] Signal strength switch?

2005-03-31 Thread Simon Van Leeuwen
A much simpler dipole antenna (as accurate as a Yagi) can be easily built for locating the source and strength using a dowel and some lead fed to 50ohm COAX. The nulls off the ends are incredibly accurate at pointing to the anomaly. It took me ~15min and is 72, center is tuned to 72MHz +-1MHz

Re: [RCSE] Re: Signal Strength - Shadow 3

2005-03-31 Thread Chuck Anderson
At 11:19 PM 3/31/2005, you wrote: Hi Chuck, This indicates that it does have the smarts I eluded to, to decipher the unique signature of a specific TX. Do you know for sure? THe manual makes no mention... No. I have only received the Shadow yesterday and haven't done more than I posted in my

Re: [RCSE] Signal strength switch?

2005-03-31 Thread Simon Van Leeuwen
Hi John, Comments inserted: Jon Stone wrote: Simon wrote: I find it hard to imagine both system protocols working harmoniously as the local field. Why would they not work in harmony on the same field? Existing radios are on 72 Mhz. Existing SS radios use 900 Mhz and 2.4 Ghz. Are you

Re: [RCSE] Re:Signal strength switch?

2005-03-31 Thread Bruce DeVisser
Hi Rob, Your test with a glitch counter is not a vaild measure of interference, unless the model carrying ithas been calibrated in a "clean environment", like a radio test chamber, and the area under test has been profiled across the user'sfrequency band. I've had hundreds of glitches

Re: [RCSE] Signal strength switch?

2005-03-31 Thread Dave H.
This idea of digitally encoding the signal is feasible. I work with remote controlled industrial cranes and locamotives that operate on 72MHz. In one area we have 3 cranes operating on the exact same freq with different digital addresses without any interferance. The industial

Re: [RCSE] Signal strength switch?

2005-03-31 Thread Doug McLaren
On Fri, Apr 01, 2005 at 07:17:51AM -, Dave H. wrote: | This idea of digitally encoding the signal is feasible. I work with | remote controlled industrial cranes and locamotives that operate on | 72MHz. In one area we have 3 cranes operating on the exact same | freq with different digital