Re: [OT] Another one bites the dust...DS is EOL.

+1 On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 1:01 PM, Sebastien Sterling < sebastien.sterl...@gmail.com> wrote: > buying competition for the purpose of shelving should be illegal, there > should be a two year development proofing in which buyer must prove he has > the DCC's best interest at hand. or the software s

Re: [OT] Another one bites the dust...DS is EOL.

So looks like I spoke to soon lol <<..after a decade+, DS is still (not so minimally) supported, (DS V11 Features ) while the few DS users (far fewer than SI) have been complaining about exposure and anticipating "the end" since Day 1 of the 'not

Re: [OT] Another one bites the dust...DS is EOL.

I'd agree in principle, but a jungle of software patents, code cross-pollination, and strong dependency on, and exposure of, company internals when one changes hand make it hard for some products to be shuffled around. IE: if they had to put DS up for sale, what happens to patented and shared high

Re: [OT] Another one bites the dust...DS is EOL.

I think if a company wants to discontinue a product with a user-base that relies upon it then by law they should have to first offer it for sale. And only have the option of shelving it if there is shown no interest in it. On 6 Aug 2013, at 21:01, Sebastien Sterling wrote: > buying competit

Re: [OT] Another one bites the dust...DS is EOL.

On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 12:38 PM, Grahame Fuller wrote: > Funnily enough, bits of Media Illusion, Matador, and Elastic Reality still > live on inside Softimage of all places. Bits of DS too, like that gray bar > that appears on the left during startup. Avid had a big software purge in 1998, at t

Re: [OT] Another one bites the dust...DS is EOL.

Putting elastic reality is something I did for fun on the side. It was already a node in Media Illusion, but the UI needed to be ported to the Fx tree Viewer. On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 3:39 PM, Paul Griswold < pgrisw...@fusiondigitalproductions.com> wrote: > I think I remember Eric Goulette sent me

Re: [OT] Another one bites the dust...DS is EOL.

buying competition for the purpose of shelving should be illegal, there should be a two year development proofing in which buyer must prove he has the DCC's best interest at hand. or the software should revert to the owner, or the government or, hell some organism. i don't think DCC's are dead in n

Re: [OT] Another one bites the dust...DS is EOL.

I think I remember Eric Goulette sent me a bunch of videos on Elastic Reality in XSI a long time ago. Avid had it sitting around & eventually someone convinced them to include it in Softimage. I love the thought that Softimage is connected to the Amiga. Elastic Reality started out life as Morph

Re: [OT] Another one bites the dust...DS is EOL.

I had no idea about Elastic Reality within FXTree. Thanks for pointing that out. Maybe that explains Avid's business model a little better. :) On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 12:59 PM, Alan Fregtman wrote: > Just FYI, Elastic Reality's tech (somewhat) lives on in Softimage as > FXTree nodes... > https://

RE: [OT] Another one bites the dust...DS is EOL.

Subject: RE: [OT] Another one bites the dust...DS is EOL. But most of the core development of DS, that led to its current day design, was done under Microsoft, wasn't it? -- Joey Ponthieux LaRC Information Technology Enhanced Services (LITES) Mymic Technical Services NASA Langley Research C

RE: [OT] Another one bites the dust...DS is EOL.

image@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: RE: [OT] Another one bites the dust...DS is EOL. I wasn't there, but am told the SGI version, although first, was mostly smoke and mirrors or a prototype at best. Microsoft bought Softimage when DS was about a year old or so, so not much to show. Matt From:

RE: [OT] Another one bites the dust...DS is EOL.

-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Ponthieux, Joseph G. (LARC-E1A)[LITES] Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2013 10:40 AM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: RE: [OT] Another one bites the dust...DS is EOL. But to be fair to the parties(developers) involved, wasn't the decision to take DS to

RE: [OT] Another one bites the dust...DS is EOL.

sseau Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2013 12:07 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: [OT] Another one bites the dust...DS is EOL. DS doomed itself with Windows, because the user base they were going after has always been mac-based and windows-hating (even through the dark Apple years of

Re: [OT] Another one bites the dust...DS is EOL.

Just FYI, Elastic Reality's tech (somewhat) lives on in Softimage as FXTree nodes... https://vimeo.com/65641320 On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 11:43 AM, Stephen Davidson wrote: > Avid has quite history of shelving products, that they buy. > One only has to go to Wikipedia to see the long list of discon

RE: [OT] Another one bites the dust...DS is EOL.

Behalf Of Stephen Davidson Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2013 11:43 AM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: [OT] Another one bites the dust...DS is EOL. Avid has quite history of shelving products, that they buy. One only has to go to Wikipedia to see the long list of discontinued

Re: [OT] Another one bites the dust...DS is EOL.

On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 11:43 AM, Stephen Davidson wrote: > Avid has quite history of shelving products, that they buy. > > so 15 years is too soon?

Re: [OT] Another one bites the dust...DS is EOL.

DS doomed itself with Windows, because the user base they were going after has always been mac-based and windows-hating (even through the dark Apple years of the 1990s). Later, none of the code or components of DS could be ported/shared to media composer or other Avid Mac products, so they couldn't

Re: [OT] Another one bites the dust...DS is EOL.

In the commercial production world, surely there must be some influence from the client side on these turnkey systems, since they interact directly with the comp artist in the suite. Thus, it isn't necessarily about how expensive or good the software is or even how proficient the artist is, but the

Re: [OT] Another one bites the dust...DS is EOL.

I don't believe DS is doomed because of being attached to the windows platform. In Mexico, when it started being a Softimage product, several were sold. I bought one. It was a better software than Inferno IMHO, and a lot of bucks below. To have an Inferno it not only meant the silicon mainfram

Re: [OT] Another one bites the dust...DS is EOL.

Avid has quite history of shelving products, that they buy. One only has to go to Wikipedia to see the long list of discontinued purchases: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avid_Technology I have been a victim of this odd business model with Matador(Media Illusion) and Elastic Reality. It just makes me

Re: [OT] Another one bites the dust...DS is EOL.

doomed from the start by its deep attachment to the Windows platform. On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 4:51 AM, Fabrice Altman wrote: > I think Luc-Eric did ‘a bit of work’ on that as well. http://provideocoalition.com/ssimmons/story/it-looks-like-avid-is-finally-going-lay-ds-to-rest

[OT] Another one bites the dust...DS is EOL.

I think Luc-Eric did 'a bit of work' on that as well.