Re: 16 bit tif from photoshop not working in softimage?

2012-11-20 Thread Luc-Eric Rousseau
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 10:48 PM, Schoenberger wrote: > Not like .IFF, which can also do everything (even maya scene files are > actually the .IFF format). > MAC and PC save the format differently, RGB + CMYK + YCbCr + CIE Lab, 5 > different compressions (lzw required a paid license), prefilters..

RE: 16 bit tif from photoshop not working in softimage?

2012-11-19 Thread Schoenberger
I will take the night _ From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Steven Caron Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2012 12:21 AM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: 16 bit tif from photoshop not working in softimage?

Re: 16 bit tif from photoshop not working in softimage?

2012-11-17 Thread Steven Caron
t;>> mipmaps for Softimage, in particular, is there any practical difference in >>> the resulting image or time of rendering? >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> *Fr

Re: 16 bit tif from photoshop not working in softimage?

2012-11-17 Thread Alan Fregtman
;> >> Thanks >> >> ** ** >> >> ** ** >> >> *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto: >> softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Steven Caron >> *Sent:* Thursday, November 15, 2012 6:12 PM >> >> *To:* so

Re: 16 bit tif from photoshop not working in softimage?

2012-11-17 Thread Steven Caron
ovember 15, 2012 6:12 PM > > *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com > *Subject:* Re: 16 bit tif from photoshop not working in softimage? > > ** ** > > tifs are perfectly fine... they support many bit depths, mip mapping, and > tiling. i did a comparison to exr as a texture for

RE: 16 bit tif from photoshop not working in softimage?

2012-11-17 Thread Eric Cosky
ference in the resulting image or time of rendering? Thanks From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Steven Caron Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 6:12 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: 16 bit tif from photosh

RE: 16 bit tif from photoshop not working in softimage?

2012-11-16 Thread Matt Lind
e format. Matt From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Ponthieux, Joey Sent: Friday, November 16, 2012 2:32 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: 16 bit tif from photoshop not working in softimage? But am i incor

Re: 16 bit tif from photoshop not working in softimage?

2012-11-16 Thread Ponthieux, Joey
But am i incorrect in the assumption that of all those formats Pic is the only format the Softimage developers have full control over? IE they have the ability to modify its structure at will? Doesn't that classify it as native to Softimage? I realize that when the image library .so was made a

Re: 16 bit tif from photoshop not working in softimage?

2012-11-16 Thread Luc-Eric Rousseau
XSI really doesn't have a "Native format", it just has a default value in the rendering ppg .pic is just a file format like the others; there is no additional conversion when using the other format in Softimage, or loss of meta-data. All the image file formats in softimage have the API. Plus, if y

Re: 16 bit tif from photoshop not working in softimage?

2012-11-16 Thread Ponthieux, Joey
-- *From:* Simon van de Lagemaat mailto:si...@theembassyvfx.com>> *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com <mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com> *Sent:* Thursday, 15 November 2012, 21:06 *Subj

Re: 16 bit tif from photoshop not working in softimage?

2012-11-16 Thread Leoung O'Young
*From:* Simon van de Lagemaat mailto:si...@theembassyvfx.com>> *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com <mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com> *Sent:* Thursday, 15 November 2012, 21:06

Re: 16 bit tif from photoshop not working in softimage?

2012-11-16 Thread Adam Seeley
d them of course! >>> >>>Adam >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> From: Simon van de Lagemaat >>>To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com >>>Sent: Thursday, 15 November 2012, 21:0

RE: 16 bit tif from photoshop not working in softimage?

2012-11-16 Thread Matt Lind
AM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: 16 bit tif from photoshop not working in softimage? So I am curious why no one is using SI pic? That is the native format. Joey Ponthieux LaRC Information Technology Enhanced Services (LITES) Mymic Technical Services NASA Langley Research C

Re: 16 bit tif from photoshop not working in softimage?

2012-11-16 Thread Simon van de Lagemaat
it out files for rendering. J >> >> >> >> >> >> From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com >> [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Gene Crucean >> Sent: 15 novembre 2012 23:15 >> >> >> To: softimage@list

Re: 16 bit tif from photoshop not working in softimage?

2012-11-16 Thread Ponthieux, Joey
.com> *Sent:* Thursday, 15 November 2012, 21:06 *Subject:* Re: 16 bit tif from photoshop not working in softimage? What do people here use as a standard format? I always thought tiff was the least offens

Re: 16 bit tif from photoshop not working in softimage?

2012-11-16 Thread Steven Caron
ps re-load times down when compositing. >>>> >>>> Flame/Smoke can't load them of course! >>>> >>>> Adam >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> *From:* Simon van de Lagemaat >>

Re: 16 bit tif from photoshop not working in softimage?

2012-11-16 Thread Luc-Eric Rousseau
roblem with >>> texturing or rendering. >>> >>> Good lossless compression keeps re-load times down when compositing. >>> >>> Flame/Smoke can't load them of course! >>> >>> Adam >>> >>> >>> --------

Re: 16 bit tif from photoshop not working in softimage?

2012-11-16 Thread Gene Crucean
mpositing. >> >> Flame/Smoke can't load them of course! >> >> Adam >> >> >> -- >> *From:* Simon van de Lagemaat >> *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com >> *Sent:* Thursday, 15 November 2012, 21:06 >> >> *Subject:* Re: 16 bit tif

Re: 16 bit tif from photoshop not working in softimage?

2012-11-16 Thread Steven Caron
no, it says.. 'No file parser to read this image type : c:\temp\7channels.tif' it seems to be just the extra channels throwing the parser off, cause it opens the 4 channels 16bit flavor fine. also, this isn't mental ray unless softimage is somehow using mental ray's image library to load files fo

Re: 16 bit tif from photoshop not working in softimage?

2012-11-16 Thread Steven Caron
s re-load times down when compositing. > > Flame/Smoke can't load them of course! > > Adam > > > -- > *From:* Simon van de Lagemaat > *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com > *Sent:* Thursday, 15 November 2012, 21:06 > > *Sub

Re: 16 bit tif from photoshop not working in softimage?

2012-11-16 Thread Adam Seeley
softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Sent: Thursday, 15 November 2012, 21:06 Subject: Re: 16 bit tif from photoshop not working in softimage? What do people here use as a standard format?  I always thought tiff was the least offensive format but after running into some issues with the byte order bs we'

Re: 16 bit tif from photoshop not working in softimage?

2012-11-16 Thread Luc-Eric Rousseau
Tiff are indeed fine - unfortunately many apps have not implemented the full API of Tiff and support multiple channels. Does this tiff load in the flipbook or fxtree? I saw an bug report here about the latest mental ray version not being able to load tiff that had more than 4 channels, maybe you're

Re: 16 bit tif from photoshop not working in softimage?

2012-11-16 Thread Jonathan Laborde
*Sent:* 15 novembre 2012 23:15 > > *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com > *Subject:* Re: 16 bit tif from photoshop not working in softimage? > > ** ** > > The problem, is that they constantly break things or just don't work. If > you can get them to work consiste

RE: 16 bit tif from photoshop not working in softimage?

2012-11-16 Thread Marc-Andre Carbonneau
image-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Gene Crucean Sent: 15 novembre 2012 23:15 To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: 16 bit tif from photoshop not working in softimage? The problem, is that they constantly break things or just don't work. If you can get them to work co

Re: 16 bit tif from photoshop not working in softimage?

2012-11-15 Thread Gene Crucean
The problem, is that they constantly break things or just don't work. If you can get them to work consistently on your end... more power to ya. bmp? xpm? Naa... photos. Analog. Keepin it real over here. On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 7:00 PM, Raffaele Fragapane < raffsxsil...@googlemail.com> wrote: >

Re: 16 bit tif from photoshop not working in softimage?

2012-11-15 Thread Martin
In gaming production we have even more format problems, and even different formats with the same extension like Nintendo's NW4C TGA (not the same as Truevision TGA). So I use to script something simple with Photoshop's Script Listener. Using Script Listener's log and editing a few lines is good eno

Re: 16 bit tif from photoshop not working in softimage?

2012-11-15 Thread Raffaele Fragapane
Any sort of compression per chance? Not too sure about 16bit, but most compression schemes have been a flat no-go for me before when it comes to tifs and PS. On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 9:57 AM, Steven Caron wrote: > hey gang > > am i right on this? i am trying to see a 16bit tif file inside softima

Re: 16 bit tif from photoshop not working in softimage?

2012-11-15 Thread Alan Fregtman
bmp?! Now you're talking fancy... XPM files all the way! On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 10:00 PM, Raffaele Fragapane < raffsxsil...@googlemail.com> wrote: > Totally, why on earth would anyone ever want some functionality or > versatility?! Down with it! Bring MS' bmp back, I say. > > > On Fri, Nov 16,

Re: 16 bit tif from photoshop not working in softimage?

2012-11-15 Thread Eric Thivierge
Tiffs apparently don't work on Apple machines. :P Eric Thivierge http://www.ethivierge.com On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 2:00 PM, Raffaele Fragapane < raffsxsil...@googlemail.com> wrote: > Totally, why on earth would anyone ever want some functionality or

Re: 16 bit tif from photoshop not working in softimage?

2012-11-15 Thread Raffaele Fragapane
Totally, why on earth would anyone ever want some functionality or versatility?! Down with it! Bring MS' bmp back, I say. On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 1:29 PM, Gene Crucean wrote: > That's *exactly *why I hate them. Wa too many flavors and options for > people to f**k up. Yes they support a lot of

Re: 16 bit tif from photoshop not working in softimage?

2012-11-15 Thread Steven Caron
but thats more photoshop's fault... openexr has support for many different compression options... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenEXR#Compression_methods it could save photoshop layers as channels and with proexr plugin i believe you can. now with openexr 2.0 coming out they have support for mul

Re: 16 bit tif from photoshop not working in softimage?

2012-11-15 Thread Steven Caron
psd files dont render in arnold ;( On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 6:40 PM, Stephen Davidson wrote: > I use PSD files, as textures in Softimage, no problem. It evens sees the > transparency (32 bit). > I have had issues with TIFF > > > On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 9:12 PM, Steven Caron wrote: > >> oh i shou

Re: 16 bit tif from photoshop not working in softimage?

2012-11-15 Thread Stephen Davidson
I use PSD files, as textures in Softimage, no problem. It evens sees the transparency (32 bit). I have had issues with TIFF On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 9:12 PM, Steven Caron wrote: > oh i should add, tifs are perfectly fine in arnold... they have been a > pain in the past with mental ray, but fortun

Re: 16 bit tif from photoshop not working in softimage?

2012-11-15 Thread Gene Crucean
That's *exactly *why I hate them. Wa too many flavors and options for people to f**k up. Yes they support a lot of features... but I almost never want any of them, and I don't want texture guys saving them with layers using lzw compression in cmyk ;) Seriously. They suck :P On Thu, Nov 15, 2

Re: 16 bit tif from photoshop not working in softimage?

2012-11-15 Thread Steven Caron
oh i should add, tifs are perfectly fine in arnold... they have been a pain in the past with mental ray, but fortunately i dont have to use mental ray much if at all anymore. s On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 6:11 PM, Steven Caron wrote: > tifs are perfectly fine... they support many bit depths, mip m

Re: 16 bit tif from photoshop not working in softimage?

2012-11-15 Thread Steven Caron
tifs are perfectly fine... they support many bit depths, mip mapping, and tiling. i did a comparison to exr as a texture format years ago and OIIO/Arnold liked the tif files better. s On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 6:06 PM, Simon van de Lagemaat < si...@theembassyvfx.com> wrote: > What do people here

Re: 16 bit tif from photoshop not working in softimage?

2012-11-15 Thread Simon van de Lagemaat
What do people here use as a standard format? I always thought tiff was the least offensive format but after running into some issues with the byte order bs we're wondering if png's might be better? On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 5:58 PM, Gene Crucean wrote: > .tif's = the devil > > > > ... that is al

Re: 16 bit tif from photoshop not working in softimage?

2012-11-15 Thread Ponthieux, Joey
Na. Photoshop would NEVER do that. Joey Ponthieux Opinions stated here-in are strictly those of the author and do not represent the opinions of NASA or any other party. On 11/15/2012 7:08 PM, Steven Caron wrote: .unless p

Re: 16 bit tif from photoshop not working in softimage?

2012-11-15 Thread Steven Caron
com] *On Behalf Of *Steven Caron > *Sent:* Thursday, November 15, 2012 4:09 PM > > *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com > *Subject:* Re: 16 bit tif from photoshop not working in softimage? > > ** ** > > >imf_info.exe C:\temp\blue_chair_color.tif > > width heig

RE: 16 bit tif from photoshop not working in softimage?

2012-11-15 Thread Matt Lind
Imginfo.exe will tell you compression scheme Matt From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Steven Caron Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 4:09 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: 16 bit tif from photoshop not

Re: 16 bit tif from photoshop not working in softimage?

2012-11-15 Thread Steven Caron
>imf_info.exe C:\temp\blue_chair_color.tif width height comp bits gamma line type format file 2048 20484 16 1 down rgba_16 tif C:\temp\blue_chair_color.tif doesn't say anything about compression, i am pretty sure its not compression... unless photoshop is doing something i

RE: 16 bit tif from photoshop not working in softimage?

2012-11-15 Thread Matt Lind
Subject: Re: 16 bit tif from photoshop not working in softimage? not on purpose... the settings i choose out of photoshop for compression is none and discard layers On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 3:38 PM, Matt Lind mailto:ml...@carbinestudios.com>> wrote: It is using LZW compression by chance?

Re: 16 bit tif from photoshop not working in softimage?

2012-11-15 Thread Steven Caron
; > ** ** > > *From:* softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto: > softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] *On Behalf Of *Steven Caron > *Sent:* Thursday, November 15, 2012 3:33 PM > *To:* softimage@listproc.autodesk.com > *Subject:* Re: 16 bit tif from photoshop

RE: 16 bit tif from photoshop not working in softimage?

2012-11-15 Thread Matt Lind
It is using LZW compression by chance? Matt From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Steven Caron Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 3:33 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: 16 bit tif from photoshop not

Re: 16 bit tif from photoshop not working in softimage?

2012-11-15 Thread Steven Caron
nope, its RGB On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 3:27 PM, Rob Chapman wrote: > bet you its CMYK and not RGB :) > > > On 15 November 2012 23:06, Steven Caron wrote: > >> no compression... i am converting them to an optimal rendering format for >> arnold during publish. in the mean time when developing an

Re: 16 bit tif from photoshop not working in softimage?

2012-11-15 Thread Simon van de Lagemaat
I've had success with 16bpp greyscale tiffs (heightmaps mostly) but generally I use exr if I'm going above 8bpp, just a much more predictable format when extra depth is required. On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 3:06 PM, Steven Caron wrote: > no compression... i am converting them to an optimal rendering

Re: 16 bit tif from photoshop not working in softimage?

2012-11-15 Thread Rob Chapman
bet you its CMYK and not RGB :) On 15 November 2012 23:06, Steven Caron wrote: > no compression... i am converting them to an optimal rendering format for > arnold during publish. in the mean time when developing an asset this is > what my typical settings are when saving from PS. > > compressio

Re: 16 bit tif from photoshop not working in softimage?

2012-11-15 Thread Steven Caron
no compression... i am converting them to an optimal rendering format for arnold during publish. in the mean time when developing an asset this is what my typical settings are when saving from PS. compression = none pixel order = interleaved byte order = ibm pc save image pyramid = off layer compr