Re: Renderfarm options

2012-07-31 Thread Francois Lord
We did it. We built our own setup to launch nodes over there and send them scenes and textures to render and write back the images to our file server. It's good, but expensive. You don't send any type of jobs either. We did it for linux and Arnold only. We use it for emergency only, and it's be

Re: Renderfarm options

2012-07-31 Thread Richard Bensley
Is nobody looking at ec2 nodes? Ec2 is designed for temporary burst computing. You just need a staging server to handle and deploy assets (NFS shares would do). I don't know how to do this with Windows only Linux. You talk to the AWS api to fire up nodes as and when you want them. Rich -- Richa

Re: Renderfarm options

2012-07-31 Thread peter_b
expensive blades all of a sudden become very attractive. From: Mirko Jankovic Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 5:25 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Renderfarm options yes licences are also big thing to deal with more "slower" render comps or less stronger ones. But

Re: Renderfarm options

2012-07-31 Thread peter_b
From: Sylvain Lebeau Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 4:26 PM To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com Subject: Re: Renderfarm options > cool to have another chime! >When i say old blades... it doesnt mean they are old x486... ;-) they are >also Dell Poweredge Xeon servers with 6 gig ram

Re: Renderfarm options

2012-07-31 Thread Leoung O'Young
Hi Francois, Am I reading it right,you are using xeons but the i7 are faster as single cpu. Leoung This has a negative effect of having some jobs being slower on the XEONs than on the i7s On 7/31/2012 11:43 AM, Francois Lord wrote: Sorry, render farm machines are all 1u. Silly me. On 31/0

Re: Renderfarm options

2012-07-31 Thread Francois Lord
Sorry, render farm machines are all 1u. Silly me. On 31/07/2012 11:25, Francois Lord wrote: We recently went through the same questions and decided to go with the XEONs. Space was a concern for us, as well as other factors like Arnold licenses and maintenance.. It's true that you get more power

Re: Renderfarm options

2012-07-31 Thread Mirko Jankovic
yes licences are also big thing to deal with more "slower" render comps or less stronger ones. But then again, brand name render nodes are pretty expensive and I wondering if you put on paper everything, configurations and licences in both cases what number will you get :)

Re: Renderfarm options

2012-07-31 Thread Francois Lord
We recently went through the same questions and decided to go with the XEONs. Space was a concern for us, as well as other factors like Arnold licenses and maintenance.. It's true that you get more power for the money with i7s. But when you start rendering frames that take 4 hours or more, it ma

Re: Renderfarm options

2012-07-31 Thread Leoung O'Young
For us there is some saving in Mental Ray licenses if we use dual processor systems Leoung On 7/31/2012 10:30 AM, Sylvain Lebeau wrote: very interesting Mirko. yes they are indeed very expensive. --

Re: Renderfarm options

2012-07-31 Thread Sylvain Lebeau
very interesting Mirko. yes they are indeed very expensive. -- Sylvain Lebeau // SHED V-P/Visual effects supervisor 1410, RUE STANLEY, 11E ÉTAGE MONTRÉAL (QUÉBEC) H3A 1P8 T 514 849-1555 F 514 849-5025 WWW.SHEDMTL.COM  

Re: Renderfarm options

2012-07-31 Thread Sylvain Lebeau
cool to have another chime! When i say old blades... it doesnt mean they are old x486... ;-)  they are also Dell Poweredge Xeon servers with 6 gig ram. Here we mostly do beauty renders in Arnold with AOV's and a couple of puzz matte.  And renders that takes 1h on our best blades can take up t

Re: Renderfarm options

2012-07-31 Thread Leoung O'Young
I spoke to someone at Boxx, they have done some tests and the dual Xeon 24 cores are superior to the dual AMD Opteron 32 cores Leoung On 7/31/2012 6:16 AM, pete...@skynet.be wrote: Sylvain wrot

Re: Renderfarm options

2012-07-31 Thread peter_b
Sylvain wrote: >> 35 blades total with 14 dedicated to nuke (old ones that doesnt have enough >> ram and power for arnold) >> recycle your old blade for comp! ... just jumping in I am surprised about this – as we do the exact opposite. we prioritize the best renderblades for Nuke, most with 2

Re: Renderfarm options

2012-07-30 Thread Mirko Jankovic
About diferent look on AMD and Intel, I posted that post but it was just a problem with different Arnold version after all. Fixed that and both AMD and Intel are rendering same. So no problems there. As for Xeons.. I made some calculations couple times and for same price of one dual Xeon 24 thread

Re: Renderfarm options

2012-07-30 Thread Leoung O'Young
Sorry, I missed read, I thought you old ones were Dells I will look into them. On 7/30/2012 11:45 PM, Sylvain Lebeau wrote: euh maybe you didnt read my last email. DELL poweredge from a resseller downstairs...

Re: Renderfarm options

2012-07-30 Thread Sylvain Lebeau
euh maybe you didnt read my last email. DELL poweredge from a resseller downstairs... ;-) -- Sylvain Lebeau // SHED V-P/Visual effects supervisor 1410, RUE STANLEY, 11E ÉTAGE MONTRÉAL (QUÉBEC) H3A 1P8 T 514 849-1555 F 514 849-5025 WWW.SHEDMTL.COM

Re: Renderfarm options

2012-07-30 Thread Leoung O'Young
So where did you get your systems? On 7/30/2012 11:37 PM, Sylvain Lebeau wrote: ok! recycle your old blade for comp! ...  or for ethernet gagming!! Quake 2 arena is massivly comming back here  ;-) and no i didn

Re: Renderfarm options

2012-07-30 Thread Sylvain Lebeau
ok! recycle your old blade for comp! ...  or for ethernet gagming!! Quake 2 arena is massivly comming back here  ;-) and no i didnt compare   i buy new shits and hope for the best upon the specs i get.. !! yeah boxx are very expensive and ... maybe overated... in my humble opin

Re: Renderfarm options

2012-07-30 Thread Leoung O'Young
We render in old Mental Ray. We do have a few systems with not enough ram collecting dust . Have you compare a single intel i7 3930 (6 cores, 12 thread) with 2x Xeon X5650 I spoke to Boxx about their Renderpro 2x Xeon E5 2670 16 cores 32 thread but it

Re: Renderfarm options

2012-07-30 Thread Leoung O'Young
Hi Sly, Thanks so much for quick responds. I had a mix of AMD Opteron and Intel Xeon previously with no problem, but that doesn't mean it won't be a problem now. Did you guys build your own computers for the farm or bought them off the shelf, are they dual processor systems? Thanks, Leoung

Re: Renderfarm options

2012-07-30 Thread Sylvain Lebeau
Hi Leoung, i would definetly go with Intel procs if you are ADDING on a farm/workstation that is already Intel based or vice/versa i've heard a couple of times that the same frame rendered on different chips we're giving different results wich could lead into a nightmare. I dont know

Renderfarm options

2012-07-30 Thread Leoung O'Young
I am looking at adding a few more computers for rendering. Looking for some opinions. AMD 2x opteron 6272 for total of 32 cores Intel 2x E5 2670 for a total of 16 cores Thanks so much, Leoung