[jira] Commented: (SOLR-567) SolrCore Pluggable

2008-09-05 Thread Jason Rutherglen (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-567?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=12628613#action_12628613 ] Jason Rutherglen commented on SOLR-567: --- Without looking at the code, what has changed?

Re: [jira] Commented: (SOLR-567) SolrCore Pluggable

2008-09-05 Thread Noble Paul നോബിള്‍ नोब्ळ्
MultiCore.java is renamed to CoreContainer and SolrCore is changed a lot On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 4:27 PM, Jason Rutherglen (JIRA) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [

Re: [jira] Commented: (SOLR-567) SolrCore Pluggable

2008-09-05 Thread Jason Rutherglen
I would like to have a higher level discussion about the integration before mucking about in the SOLR code again. This way work invested is work that will not have to be changed too much later on. Do folks have ideas about how they would want to do this? On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 7:03 AM, Noble

[jira] Commented: (SOLR-567) SolrCore Pluggable

2008-09-05 Thread Noble Paul (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-567?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=12628624#action_12628624 ] Noble Paul commented on SOLR-567: - As a general approach , A pluggable SolrCore does not look

Re: [jira] Commented: (SOLR-567) SolrCore Pluggable

2008-09-05 Thread Mark Miller
Ocean integration should really be targeted at solr 2 I think, so API compatibility shouldn't be a large barrier. Noble Paul (JIRA) wrote: [

Re: [jira] Commented: (SOLR-567) SolrCore Pluggable

2008-09-05 Thread Jason Rutherglen
Ok, SOLR 2 can be a from the ground up rewrite? That would make things much easier. Otherwise Noble you are correct the integration from my perspective is messy and there would be a lot of things that are currently in SOLR that are unnecessary. On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 9:00 AM, Mark Miller [EMAIL

Re: [jira] Commented: (SOLR-567) SolrCore Pluggable

2008-09-05 Thread Yonik Seeley
On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 9:03 AM, Jason Rutherglen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, SOLR 2 can be a from the ground up rewrite? Sort-of... I think that's up for discussion at this point, but enough should change that keeping Java APIs back compatible is not a priority (just my opinion of course).

Re: [jira] Commented: (SOLR-567) SolrCore Pluggable

2008-09-05 Thread Noble Paul നോബിള്‍ नोब्ळ्
Postponing Ocean Integration towards 2.0 is not a good idea. First of all we do not know when 2.0 is going to happen. delaying such a good feature till 2.0 is wasting time. My assumption was that Actually realtime search may have nothing to do with the core itself . It may be fine with a

Re: [jira] Commented: (SOLR-567) SolrCore Pluggable

2008-09-05 Thread Yonik Seeley
On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 9:40 AM, Noble Paul നോബിള്‍ नोब्ळ् [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If with a few changes we can start the integration, that is the best way forward. That's a good point too... I think collecting all the requirements for Solr2 will help from a design perspective, but if people

Re: [jira] Commented: (SOLR-567) SolrCore Pluggable

2008-09-05 Thread Mark Miller
IMO, you are underestimating the difficulty of integrating Ocean with Solr's current API's. Also, Jason has already mentioned that Ocean is much more than just realtime search. Adding realtime search to something like solr 1.5 is a different goal than possibly integrating the Ocean work that

Re: [jira] Commented: (SOLR-567) SolrCore Pluggable

2008-09-05 Thread Jason Rutherglen
Ok... Well I did try that. I think that can be done as well. IMO schemas should be avoided with realtime. Otherwise there is a nightmare with schema versions. The current config files would not be used. How do you propose the non-integration of those things? It would seem to create a strange

Re: [jira] Commented: (SOLR-567) SolrCore Pluggable

2008-09-05 Thread Noble Paul നോബിള്‍ नोब्ळ्
On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 7:23 PM, Mark Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IMO, you are underestimating the difficulty of integrating Ocean with Solr's current API's. OK. you are right. Actually ,I did not mean the ocean integration. I am mostly interested in the Realtime search part. If we take one

Re: [jira] Commented: (SOLR-567) SolrCore Pluggable

2008-09-05 Thread Jason Rutherglen
That may be the way to go, however there are many issues that you will probably run into, the same ones I ran into that made the integration difficult as mentioned. I could be wrong however. Most realtime search is something on the order of a 5-10 second delay and there is no transaction log. I

Re: [jira] Commented: (SOLR-567) SolrCore Pluggable

2008-09-05 Thread Mark Miller
These all sound like good ideas for solr2. The ability to handle changes on the fly easily across many machines would be an awesome place to reach. Dynamically changing field schema/stopword stuff is also a great feature to have. I think the key to reaching those goals is to really join the

Re: [jira] Commented: (SOLR-567) SolrCore Pluggable

2008-09-05 Thread Shalin Shekhar Mangar
On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 7:59 PM, Mark Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: These all sound like good ideas for solr2. The ability to handle changes on the fly easily across many machines would be an awesome place to reach. Dynamically changing field schema/stopword stuff is also a great feature to

Re: [jira] Commented: (SOLR-567) SolrCore Pluggable

2008-09-05 Thread Yonik Seeley
On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 10:45 AM, Shalin Shekhar Mangar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cloud computing cluster having hundreds of servers is a niche area limited to few (and they already have their systems in place without Solr). Any efforts of integration must keep in mind our users and their needs.

Re: [jira] Commented: (SOLR-567) SolrCore Pluggable

2008-09-05 Thread Mark Miller
Yonik Seeley wrote: On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 10:45 AM, Shalin Shekhar Mangar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cloud computing cluster having hundreds of servers is a niche area limited to few (and they already have their systems in place without Solr). Any efforts of integration must keep in mind our

Re: [jira] Commented: (SOLR-567) SolrCore Pluggable

2008-09-05 Thread Shalin Shekhar Mangar
On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 8:26 PM, Yonik Seeley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We all scratch our own itch in open-source... good, practical scalability to high levels is an interest of mine :-) Many will choose their solution based on it's ability to scale to their most optimistic projections... so

[jira] Commented: (SOLR-567) SolrCore Pluggable

2008-09-04 Thread Noble Paul (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-567?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=12628541#action_12628541 ] Noble Paul commented on SOLR-567: - The code has changed drastically since the last patch is

[jira] Commented: (SOLR-567) SolrCore Pluggable

2008-05-17 Thread Otis Gospodnetic (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-567?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=12597776#action_12597776 ] Otis Gospodnetic commented on SOLR-567: --- Jason, if you keep the same name for the

[jira] Commented: (SOLR-567) SolrCore Pluggable

2008-05-08 Thread Ryan McKinley (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-567?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=12595406#action_12595406 ] Ryan McKinley commented on SOLR-567: I take it this is related to SOLR-564? (oceansearch

[jira] Commented: (SOLR-567) SolrCore Pluggable

2008-05-08 Thread Jason Rutherglen (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-567?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=12595408#action_12595408 ] Jason Rutherglen commented on SOLR-567: --- I figured someone on the core team should