Re: solrcloud Auto-commit doesn't seem reliable

2018-03-23 Thread Webster Homer
It's been a while since I had time to look further into this. I'll have to go back through logs, which I need to get retrieved by an admin. On Fri, Mar 23, 2018 at 8:45 AM, Amrit Sarkar wrote: > Elaino, > > When you say commits not working, the solr logs not printing

Re: solrcloud Auto-commit doesn't seem reliable

2018-03-23 Thread Amrit Sarkar
Elaino, When you say commits not working, the solr logs not printing "commit" messages? or documents are not appearing when we search. Amrit Sarkar Search Engineer Lucidworks, Inc. 415-589-9269 www.lucidworks.com Twitter http://twitter.com/lucidworks LinkedIn:

Re: solrcloud Auto-commit doesn't seem reliable

2018-03-21 Thread Elaine Cario
I'm just catching up on reading solr emails, so forgive me for being late to this dance I've just gone through a project to enable CDCR on our Solr, and I also experienced a small period of time where the commits on the source server just seemed to stop. This was during a period of intense

Re: solrcloud Auto-commit doesn't seem reliable

2018-02-16 Thread Webster Homer
I meant to get back to this sooner. When I say I issued a commit I do issue it as collection/update?commit=true The soft commit interval is set to 3000, but I don't have a problem with soft commits ( I think). I was responding I am concerned that some hard commits don't seem to happen, but I

Re: solrcloud Auto-commit doesn't seem reliable

2018-02-12 Thread Erick Erickson
bq: But if 3 seconds is aggressive what would be a good value for soft commit? The usual answer is "as long as you can stand". All top-level caches are invalidated, autowarming is done etc. on each soft commit. That can be a lot of work and if your users are comfortable with docs not showing up

Re: solrcloud Auto-commit doesn't seem reliable

2018-02-12 Thread Webster Homer
Erick, I am aware of the CDCR buffering problem causing tlog retention, we always turn buffering off in our cdcr configurations. My post was precipitated by seeing that we had uncommitted data in collections > 24 hours after it was loaded. The collections I was looking at are in our development

Re: solrcloud Auto-commit doesn't seem reliable

2018-02-09 Thread Shawn Heisey
On 2/9/2018 9:29 AM, Webster Homer wrote: A little more background. Our production Solrclouds are populated via CDCR, CDCR does not replicate commits, Commits to the target clouds happen via autoCommit settings We see relvancy scores get inconsistent when there are too many deletes which seems

Re: solrcloud Auto-commit doesn't seem reliable

2018-02-09 Thread Erick Erickson
Do you by any chance have buffering turned on for CDCR? That parameter is misleading. If true, tlogs will accumulate forever. The blanket recommendation is becoming turn buffering off and leave it off, the original intention there has been replaced really by bootstrapping. Buffering was there for

Re: solrcloud Auto-commit doesn't seem reliable

2018-02-09 Thread Webster Homer
A little more background. Our production Solrclouds are populated via CDCR, CDCR does not replicate commits, Commits to the target clouds happen via autoCommit settings We see relvancy scores get inconsistent when there are too many deletes which seems to happen when hard commits don't happen.

Re: solrcloud Auto-commit doesn't seem reliable

2018-02-09 Thread Webster Homer
I we do have autoSoftcommit set to 3 seconds. It is NOT the visibility of the records that is my primary concern. I am concerned about is the accumulation of uncommitted tlog files and the larger number of deleted documents. I am VERY familiar with the Solr documentation on this. On Fri, Feb 9,

Re: solrcloud Auto-commit doesn't seem reliable

2018-02-09 Thread Shawn Heisey
On 2/9/2018 8:44 AM, Webster Homer wrote: I look at the latest timestamp on a record in the collection and see that it is over 24 hours old. I send a commit to the collection, and then see that the core is now current, and the segments are fewer. The commit worked This is the setting in

solrcloud Auto-commit doesn't seem reliable

2018-02-09 Thread Webster Homer
I have observed this behavior with several versions of solr (4.10, 6.1, and now 7.2) I look in the admin console and look at a core and see that it is not "current" I also notice that there are lots of segments etc... I look at the latest timestamp on a record in the collection and see that it