Re: [SAtalk] Whitelist using LDAP server

2003-06-15 Thread Tony Earnshaw
Simon Byrnand wrote: Huh ? Of course Sendmail can refuse mail for non-existant user accounts. :) This happens automatically for the "primary" domain name the server is configured with, but if you're doing multiple virtual domains using the virtusertable file then you need a wildcard entry per d

Re: [SAtalk] No X-Header

2003-06-15 Thread Jack Gostl
On Mon, 16 Jun 2003, Simon Byrnand wrote: > At 21:54 15/06/03 -0400, Jack Gostl wrote: > >On Mon, 16 Jun 2003, Simon Byrnand wrote: > > > > > At 18:22 15/06/03 -0400, Jack Gostl wrote: > > > > > > >I just had a piece of spam slip through with no X-header. When I saved it, > > > >and manually ran i

Re: [SAtalk] Yet another stats program, this time with RRDtool graphs

2003-06-15 Thread Jeremy Zawodny
On Sun, Jun 15, 2003 at 07:40:03PM -0700, Clint Byrum wrote: > Hey guys. I just subscribed to the list, but have been reading the > archives for a while. I'm aware of some of the other spamd stat > reporters out there. I have written two more. One, spamdstats, is a perl > script that reports stats

Re: [SAtalk] Why does "helper-app run mode" take 3 seconds

2003-06-15 Thread Simon Byrnand
At 21:07 15/06/03 -0700, Ed Kasky wrote: At 03:25 PM Monday, 6/16/2003, Simon Byrnand wrote -=> What happens without -H is that when spamd does a setuid() to another user (other than root) the environment variable $HOME which is passed to helper apps like razor is still pointing to root's home di

Re: [SAtalk] Why does "helper-app run mode" take 3 seconds

2003-06-15 Thread Ed Kasky
At 03:25 PM Monday, 6/16/2003, Simon Byrnand wrote -=> What happens without -H is that when spamd does a setuid() to another user (other than root) the environment variable $HOME which is passed to helper apps like razor is still pointing to root's home directory. Of course razor can't save its

Re: [SAtalk] Yet another stats program, this time with RRDtool graphs

2003-06-15 Thread Benjamin A. Shelton
I like it. Another respondant mentioned graphing the scores as well. Someone else on this list gave me a script they use to plot scores with gnuplot (see attachment). I'd rather have it in an RRD database, though, but I haven't gotten around to porting it yet. I'd be interested in seeing your

Re: [SAtalk] Yet another stats program, this time with RRDtool graphs

2003-06-15 Thread Frank Pineau
On 15 Jun 2003 19:40:03 -0700, you wrote: >I'm cleaning up the code for both for a full release. If you want to >check out the graphs from spamrrd though, you can go to > >http://spamaps.org/spamrrd/ I like it. Another respondant mentioned graphing the scores as well. Someone else on this list

RE: [SAtalk] Auto-learn vs sa-learn?

2003-06-15 Thread Simon Byrnand
At 16:38 14/06/03 +0100, Mathew Hendry wrote: Jim Ford wrote: > If auto-learn is on (default setting), is there any point in putting > correctly identified spam and ham through sa-learn? Is the only use > for sa-learn to teach SA when spam or ham is incorrectly identified? No, auto-learn learns on

Re: [SAtalk] Why does "helper-app run mode" take 3 seconds

2003-06-15 Thread Simon Byrnand
At 20:19 15/06/03 -0700, Ed Kasky wrote: At 08:19 AM Monday, 6/16/2003, Simon Byrnand wrote -=> > Does anyone have any ideas as to why it would take 3 seconds to do the > following: > > Jun 14 07:28:29 yoda2 spamd[1289]: debug: entering helper-app run mode > Jun 14 07:28:32 yoda2 spamd[1289]: debug

Re: [SAtalk] Why does "helper-app run mode" take 3 seconds

2003-06-15 Thread Ed Kasky
At 08:19 AM Monday, 6/16/2003, Simon Byrnand wrote -=> > Does anyone have any ideas as to why it would take 3 seconds to do the > following: > > Jun 14 07:28:29 yoda2 spamd[1289]: debug: entering helper-app run mode > Jun 14 07:28:32 yoda2 spamd[1289]: debug: Using results from Razor v2.34 > > If I

Re: [SAtalk] Yet another stats program, this time with RRDtool graphs

2003-06-15 Thread Benjamin A. Shelton
> > >If you like, please let me know what you would do to improve it based on >that. I should be ready to release code in the next couple of days >(honestly its alright, but I need to get copyright messages and a decent >README into it). > Clint, That looks pretty darn awesome!!! It's amazing just

[SAtalk] Yet another stats program, this time with RRDtool graphs

2003-06-15 Thread Clint Byrum
Hey guys. I just subscribed to the list, but have been reading the archives for a while. I'm aware of some of the other spamd stat reporters out there. I have written two more. One, spamdstats, is a perl script that reports stats by user, and by date. The other, spamrrd, makes graphs of spam over t

Re: [SAtalk] No X-Header

2003-06-15 Thread Michael P. Carel
same problem with me but the email is below 256kb. Any idea to fix it plz. > At 18:22 15/06/03 -0400, Jack Gostl wrote: > > >I just had a piece of spam slip through with no X-header. When I saved it, > >and manually ran it through "spamc -R" it got something like a 17. > > > >By now I've run ten

Re: [SAtalk] No X-Header

2003-06-15 Thread Simon Byrnand
At 21:54 15/06/03 -0400, Jack Gostl wrote: On Mon, 16 Jun 2003, Simon Byrnand wrote: > At 18:22 15/06/03 -0400, Jack Gostl wrote: > > >I just had a piece of spam slip through with no X-header. When I saved it, > >and manually ran it through "spamc -R" it got something like a 17. > > > >By now I've

Re: [SAtalk] No X-Header

2003-06-15 Thread Jack Gostl
On Mon, 16 Jun 2003, Simon Byrnand wrote: > At 18:22 15/06/03 -0400, Jack Gostl wrote: > > >I just had a piece of spam slip through with no X-header. When I saved it, > >and manually ran it through "spamc -R" it got something like a 17. > > > >By now I've run tens of thousands of messages through

Re: [SAtalk] Whitelist using LDAP server

2003-06-15 Thread Simon Byrnand
At 11:30 15/06/03 +0200, Tony Earnshaw wrote: >Ah. Does this make any difference to putting your MTA in a proxy-forwarding DMZ? Don't know what provision >Sendmail has for defeating dictionary attacks and suchlike, but both Postfix 2.0 and Exim 4.20 can completely >defeat them, so using Fetchmai

[SAtalk] Maximum number of whitelist_from/blacklist_from entries ?

2003-06-15 Thread Simon Byrnand
Hi, Can someone tell me if there is an upper limit on the maximum number of email addresses per line (seperated with spaces) for the whitelist_from and blacklist_from directives ? The docs don't seem to specify any kind of limit... Regards, Simon --

Re: [SAtalk] Little bayes question

2003-06-15 Thread Jose M.Herrera
On Mon, 9 Jun 2003, Matt Kettler wrote: > At 07:53 PM 6/9/2003 -0400, Jose M.Herrera wrote: > >On Friday 06 June 2003 11:29, Germán D. Staltari wrote: > > > It could be global or for each user. Better results when is applied for > > > each user. > > > >How I do that?... I know train bayes but for

Re: [SAtalk] No X-Header

2003-06-15 Thread Simon Byrnand
At 18:22 15/06/03 -0400, Jack Gostl wrote: I just had a piece of spam slip through with no X-header. When I saved it, and manually ran it through "spamc -R" it got something like a 17. By now I've run tens of thousands of messages through spamc/spamd and, except for OS crashes, this is the first o

Re: [SAtalk] Whitelist using LDAP server

2003-06-15 Thread David Luyer
On Sun, Jun 15, 2003 at 05:44:40PM +0200, Tony Earnshaw wrote: > I'll do a trade with you ("swap you this for that"). You tell me how > you'd whitelist a given ldap alias list with Sendmail, and I'll tell you > how I'd do it with SA-Exim 4.20/3.0 and with Postfix 2.0.12 (dunno yet, > cos I never

[SAtalk] No X-Header

2003-06-15 Thread Jack Gostl
I just had a piece of spam slip through with no X-header. When I saved it, and manually ran it through "spamc -R" it got something like a 17. By now I've run tens of thousands of messages through spamc/spamd and, except for OS crashes, this is the first one I've seen that was obviously not proces

Re: [SAtalk] Why does "helper-app run mode" take 3 seconds

2003-06-15 Thread Simon Byrnand
> Does anyone have any ideas as to why it would take 3 seconds to do the > following: > > Jun 14 07:28:29 yoda2 spamd[1289]: debug: entering helper-app run mode > Jun 14 07:28:32 yoda2 spamd[1289]: debug: Using results from Razor v2.34 > > If I turn Razor2 off, I get times of .5 to 1.5 seconds. Oth

[SAtalk] Spoiling ham?

2003-06-15 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Today the only spam which slipped thru was a short one with some URLs in HTML and then this at the end (see below): I think this is not only trying to trick Bayes in thinking it's ham but also tries to spoil the Bayes ham recognition if I teach that message as spam to sa-learn because Bayes wil

Re: [SAtalk] Removing headers etc.. to feed Bayes correctly

2003-06-15 Thread Tony Earnshaw
Kai Schaetzl wrote: Tony, I don't know what you mean. But if you took any offense from my reply it was definitely not meant this way, sorry. Kai, Course I didn't take offense at *anything* you have said, say now or will say in the future. I don't know what this is about; quoting could help jog m

Re: [SAtalk] Removing headers etc.. to feed Bayes correctly

2003-06-15 Thread Tony Earnshaw
Kai Schaetzl wrote: Tony, I don't know what you mean. But if you took any offense from my reply it was definitely not meant this way, sorry. Kai, Course I didn't take offense at *anything* you have said, say now or will say in the future. I don't know what this is about; quoting could help jog

Re: [SAtalk] Why does "helper-app run mode" take 3 seconds

2003-06-15 Thread Ed Kasky
At 12:15 PM Sunday, 6/15/2003, Theo Van Dinter wrote -=> > Jun 14 07:28:29 yoda2 spamd[1289]: debug: entering helper-app run mode > Jun 14 07:28:32 yoda2 spamd[1289]: debug: Using results from Razor v2.34 > > Could this be related to cpu speed or dns or my setup? "entering" happens when Razor is ab

Re: [SAtalk] Why does "helper-app run mode" take 3 seconds

2003-06-15 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Sun, Jun 15, 2003 at 09:37:46AM -0700, Ed Kasky wrote: > Would it help do you think if I put the discovery server entries in the > hosts file? No. The debug lines showed that the 3 seconds was the amount of time the razor server took to respond with the razor servers you should use. Name look

Re: [SAtalk] Why does "helper-app run mode" take 3 seconds

2003-06-15 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Sun, Jun 15, 2003 at 08:28:49AM -0700, Ed Kasky wrote: > Does anyone have any ideas as to why it would take 3 seconds to do the > following: > > Jun 14 07:28:29 yoda2 spamd[1289]: debug: entering helper-app run mode > Jun 14 07:28:32 yoda2 spamd[1289]: debug: Using results from Razor v2.34 >

Re: [SAtalk] Whitelist using LDAP server

2003-06-15 Thread Tony Earnshaw
David Luyer wrote: Of course it can. sendmail can do anything. Never believe anyone who tells you there's something sendmail can't do. Well, well, well. It does it by default if it's the final delivery host, Good. So now I know that. I don't know Sendmail at all, but as I said, both SA-Exim 4.

[SAtalk] Why does "helper-app run mode" take 3 seconds

2003-06-15 Thread Ed Kasky
Does anyone have any ideas as to why it would take 3 seconds to do the following: Jun 14 07:28:29 yoda2 spamd[1289]: debug: entering helper-app run mode Jun 14 07:28:32 yoda2 spamd[1289]: debug: Using results from Razor v2.34 If I turn Razor2 off, I get times of .5 to 1.5 seconds. Otherwise it's

Re: [SAtalk] Removing headers etc.. to feed Bayes correctly

2003-06-15 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Tony, I don't know what you mean. But if you took any offense from my reply it was definitely not meant this way, sorry. Kai -- Kai Schätzl, Berlin, Germany Get your web at Conactive Internet Services: http://www.conactive.com IE-Center: http://ie5.de & http://msie.winware.org --

RE: [SAtalk] Whitelist using LDAP server

2003-06-15 Thread David Luyer
> Also, both can be configured to refuse mail for non-existent user > accounts. Which I don't believe Sendmail can. Of course it can. sendmail can do anything. Never believe anyone who tells you there's something sendmail can't do. It does it by default if it's the final delivery host, if it's

Re: [SAtalk] whitelist file?

2003-06-15 Thread Tony Earnshaw
dGenus Mailing List wrote: /etc/mail/spamassassin/whitelist_from.cf What is teh format of this file... one entry per line??? It's exactly the same as you'd stuff into your user_prefs or local.cf file. In fact, it's simply an extension of both the latter. The only point of having it at all, is to

Re: [SAtalk] Whitelist using LDAP server

2003-06-15 Thread Tony Earnshaw
Colin Dean wrote: Sorry, in trying to be brief in my original posting, I probably wasn't clear enough. All you had to do is to explain "why." Before using SA, we'd set up a regular cron job to send the relevant data from MySQL into an OpenLDAP directory so that we could then use this easily as a

Re: [SAtalk] Removing headers etc.. to feed Bayes correctly

2003-06-15 Thread Tony Earnshaw
Kai Schaetzl wrote: That's exactly what I was saying (perhaps I'd misunderstood Tom.) I was trying to say that teaching it spam under the level that one has defined as being spam - even if it is spam - amounts to defeating one's own purpose. No, that's exactly what Tom was questioning and after

Re: [SAtalk] whitelist file?

2003-06-15 Thread Tony Earnshaw
Jim Ford wrote: I think it's what's known as a "badly kept secret." Unless you count the many and frequent postings on this list, pointing it out. Should be in a FAQ somewhere (and is, perhaps :), it isn't in 'man spamd', 'man Mail::SpamAssassin::Conf',though. It's probably in the code in the P

[SAtalk] Looking at running Spam Assassin

2003-06-15 Thread Terry Allen
Hi there, Please bear with me as I'm trying to determine if Spam Assassin will do what I need it to, I have a couple of simple questions. I am running a Mac OSX 10.2.6 'client' machine, using Tenon's iTools (web/ftp/mail etc...) package for serving. We have around 25 users hanging off this ma

Re: [SAtalk] whitelist file?

2003-06-15 Thread dGenus Mailing List
Tony Earnshaw wrote: /etc/mail/spamassassin/whitelist_from.cf What is teh format of this file... one entry per line??? --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: eBay Great deals on office technology -- on eBay now! Click here: http://adfarm.media

[SAtalk] Re: Pine Not Able to Read Mailboxes Correctly

2003-06-15 Thread Nancy McGough
On 15 Jun 2003 Brad Marcoux ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > The only problem is that the mailboxes it's dumping mail into are > unreadable by pine - specifically, the mailbox shows up as one HUGE > message rather than as individual messages. I haven't encountered this > problem on any of the lists: