[SAtalk] RD: X-Originating-IP

2003-12-28 Thread Regis Wilson
Recently, one of the idiot tags by some ratware have been using the X-Originating-IP: header in the style of [somdhost.comIP] or similar. Which got me to writing the following: header __HAS_XOIP exists:X-Originating-IP describe __HAS_XOIP Header contains

[SAtalk] spamc timeout

2003-12-28 Thread Andre Esser
Hi all, I'm using SA 1.61 postfix 2.0.16 on a Debian woody box. I want to test it on a site with about 150 mails per minute. I tested it for a few minutes, but from 410 mails only 385 are scanned from spamd. None are skipped due to the size. I used the config from Security Sage. spamd is

[SAtalk] Re: Excessive amavisd memory use with spamassasin 2.6 on ppc platform'

2003-12-28 Thread Iain Stevenson
Thanks for the tips - but the problem persists ... | System is configured to use the spamd interface to spamassassin. If I you really shouldnt be passing mails back and forth since the whole point of amavisd would be to do direct library calls, its far more efficient.. I've killed spamd.

[SAtalk] Bayes_99 causing many false positives.

2003-12-28 Thread David A . Roth
I upgraded from 2.60 to 2.61 and I am getting many false positives. It seems that Bayes is pushing it with a score of 5.4. What are people to do to get around this? Do you set Bayes for a lower score? Do you disable? Thanks! 5.4 BAYES_99 BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 99 to

[SAtalk] odd problem with spamassassin missing messages...

2003-12-28 Thread Douglas F. Calvert
Hello, I am having a weird problem with spamassassin missing messages completely. Spamd logs that it accepted the mail to syslog but it does not add any headers. This has been happening a lot lately (20x a day or so) and I am unsure if it is an error in my setup or a problem with spamassassin. SA

[SAtalk] hundreds of spamd processes spawning

2003-12-28 Thread Michael P. Varre
Good morning and happy holidays everyone! Im running spamd + vpopmail + qmailscanner + mysql + clamuko. I have a problem where every once in a while hundreds of spamd processes are spawning. It absolutely crushes the server. I have determined it is not because of any large lists being

[SAtalk] newbie install help?

2003-12-28 Thread Andrew Lazarewicz
Hello! Having used spamassassin as installed at my ISP, I now want to install spamassassin at home. I log into my new ISP using a mail client at home, but spamassassin doesn't work (the .forward file does not work). Does spamassassin only work on mail servers? Or, can I use it with my mail

[SAtalk] False positives

2003-12-28 Thread schafer
To Spamassassin: My publication is double-opted in by 15,000 families with children with autism. We are routinely victimized by incompetent software like spamassassin because of false positives. This is just as intolerable as spam. It is worse than spam because it victimizes the innocent in

[SAtalk] Block To and CC Domain Rule Help

2003-12-28 Thread Neil Negandhi
I'm trying to devise a rule that would get tripped if an email had a specific domain in the To or Cc fields and was not addressed *only* to me. For example, let's say my email address was [EMAIL PROTECTED] These emails would trip the rule: To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL

RE: [SAtalk] hundreds of spamd processes spawning

2003-12-28 Thread Robert 'JFK' Lacroix
Start spamd with the argument -m 20, that maximizes the concurrently spawned instances to 20. /robert From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael P. VarreSent: Freitag, 26. Dezember 2003 16:23To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [SAtalk] hundreds of spamd processes

[SAtalk] Fwd: Rude Rape actions

2003-12-28 Thread Alex J. Avriette
Yow, how am I supposed to stop spam like this? There isn't anything to filter on except the word 'adult'. I guess 'rape' works as well.. But I'm not really inclined to filter messages with the word rape in them, nor give them a 3+ score. Ideas? Alex - Forwarded message from Nata Pofigen

Re: [SAtalk] Fwd: Rude Rape actions

2003-12-28 Thread Evan Platt
At 03:37 PM 12/26/2003, you wrote: Yow, how am I supposed to stop spam like this? There isn't anything to filter on except the word 'adult'. I guess 'rape' works as well.. But I'm not really inclined to filter messages with the word rape in them, nor give them a 3+ score. When's the last legit

Re: [SAtalk] running SA on existing mail spools

2003-12-28 Thread Dave Kliczbor
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Joey Netterville wrote: i'm running spamassassin and it works wonderfully on new, incoming email. i'm an administrator hoping to implement this on my machine and give users the ability to start filtering their email. is it possible to run

[SAtalk] Wrapper script to speed up sa-learn?

2003-12-28 Thread Dave Kliczbor
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello out there... I noticed that sa-learn sometimes is a bit too slow for my needs. I call sa-learn via: /usr/bin/sa-learn --no-rebuild --spam mailfile To speed the call itself up, I think about writing a script that loads the mailfile into RAM,

Re: [SAtalk] Some spam getting very low scores despite consistently using sa-learn

2003-12-28 Thread Ricardo Kleemann
Hi, I don't know how this message got copied multiple times to the list, I certainly only sent it once... I'm sorry for the inconvenience... Anyway, is there an address I can send a tarbal with a bunch of these messages? I keep getting spam which SA (using 2.60) consistently scores You

Re: [SAtalk] running spamassassin without installing perl on the mail server (was: (no subject))

2003-12-28 Thread Bob Apthorpe
On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 17:00:20 -0500 Padmanabha Vegesna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am the system administrator for my company. We are in the process of creating an autoresponder and are willing to download the SpamAssassin for the spam filter for the email sent through the autoresponder. My

[SAtalk] False Positive, possible bug?

2003-12-28 Thread Simon Matthews
The email below originated from a dynamic IP address, but was sent via a normal relay. However, the origin IP address triggered some RBL checks that I don't think it should have. Specifically, the RCVD_IN_DYNABLOCK check. Note that 192.168.10.250 is a local (within the LAN) relay. Also the email

Re: [SAtalk] Bayes_99 causing many false positives.

2003-12-28 Thread Simon Byrnand
I upgraded from 2.60 to 2.61 and I am getting many false positives. It seems that Bayes is pushing it with a score of 5.4. What are people to do to get around this? Do you set Bayes for a lower score? Do you disable? Thanks! 5.4 BAYES_99 BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 99 to

[SAtalk] Re: False positives

2003-12-28 Thread Bob George
On Fri, 2003-12-26 at 02:00, schafer wrote: [...] Exhibit: Start SpamAssassin results 7.10 points, 5.5 required; [...] * 3.0 -- BODY: Bayesian classifier says spam probability is 99 to 100% [score: 0.9988] [...] * -4.3 -- AWL: Auto-whitelist adjustment End of SpamAssassin

Re: [SAtalk] False positives

2003-12-28 Thread Simon Byrnand
To Spamassassin: Who is this 'SpamAsassin' you're writing to ? My publication is double-opted in by 15,000 families with children with autism. We are routinely victimized by incompetent software like spamassassin because of false positives. Whoa, steady on there... not a good start to your

Re: [SAtalk] False positives

2003-12-28 Thread Evan Platt
At 11:00 PM 12/25/2003, you wrote: My publication is double-opted in by 15,000 families with children with autism. We are routinely victimized by incompetent software like spamassassin because of false positives. This is just as intolerable as spam. It is worse than spam because it victimizes

Re: [SAtalk] Some spam getting very low scores despite consistently using sa-learn

2003-12-28 Thread Robert Menschel
Hello Ricardo, Saturday, December 27, 2003, 11:16:44 AM, you wrote: RK I sent a message last week but I guess for some reason it didn't get RK properly distributed, maybe because I attached a tarball with some RK copies of the spam messages. Could be. The sourceforge list system has a relative

Re: [SAtalk] Some spam getting very low scores despite consistently using sa-learn

2003-12-28 Thread Martin Radford
At Sun Dec 28 17:55:46 2003, Ricardo Kleemann wrote: I don't know how this message got copied multiple times to the list, I certainly only sent it once... I'm sorry for the inconvenience... Sometime sourceforge's mail servers do misbehave like this. Anyway, is there an address I can send

Re: [SAtalk] False positives

2003-12-28 Thread Bob Apthorpe
On Thu, 25 Dec 2003 23:00:14 -0800 schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To Spamassassin: My publication is double-opted in by 15,000 families with children with autism. We are routinely victimized by incompetent software like spamassassin because of false positives. This is just as

Re: [SAtalk] False positives

2003-12-28 Thread Anthony Martinez
On Thu, Dec 25, 2003 at 11:00:14PM -0800, schafer carved this out of pure phosphors: To Spamassassin: My publication is double-opted in by 15,000 families with children with autism. We are routinely victimized by incompetent software like spamassassin because of false positives. This is

RE: [SAtalk] running SA on existing mail spools

2003-12-28 Thread Gary Funck
-Original Message- From: Joey Netterville Sent: Friday, December 26, 2003 12:44 PM i'm running spamassassin and it works wonderfully on new, incoming email. i'm an administrator hoping to implement this on my machine and give users the ability to start filtering their email. is it

Re: [SAtalk] Bigevil update 2.05k

2003-12-28 Thread Kenneth Porter
For BigEvil_191, add 53x.com. Looks like the RND_UC_CHAR ratware is now using this variant for its images. --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials. Become an expert in LINUX or just sharpen your skills. Sign up for IBM's

Re: [SAtalk] Bayes_99 causing many false positives.

2003-12-28 Thread Simon Byrnand
At 15:11 28/12/2003 -0500, David A. Roth wrote: On Sunday, December 28, 2003, at 01:40 PM, Simon Byrnand wrote: I upgraded from 2.60 to 2.61 and I am getting many false positives. It seems that Bayes is pushing it with a score of 5.4. What are people to do to get around this? Do you set Bayes

[SAtalk] remove markup question and bayes question

2003-12-28 Thread S. M. C. Butler
Hi, Can anyone tell me how to use the --remove-markup command in SA? I have a whole folder of spam and I'd like to remove the SA markups so that I can use this with sa-learn (next time my bayes DB goes awol..) Also, I've got passed the 200 spams breakpoint for bayes but now it seems that I

Re: [SAtalk] remove markup question and bayes question

2003-12-28 Thread Evan Platt
At 01:25 PM 12/28/2003, you wrote: Hi, Can anyone tell me how to use the --remove-markup command in SA? I have a whole folder of spam and I'd like to remove the SA markups so that I can use this with sa-learn (next time my bayes DB goes awol..) Can't help you there, but... Also, I've got

Re: [SAtalk] False positives

2003-12-28 Thread cami
I do not know if this is the right place to complain as I could not find an email address that offers feedback to the company. This arrogance stinks, too. As if software developers don't need public feedback about their junky products. Someone needs to put a shotgun to this morons head and pull

Re: [SAtalk] Fwd: Rude Rape actions

2003-12-28 Thread Scott Lambert
On Fri, Dec 26, 2003 at 06:37:34PM -0500, Alex J. Avriette wrote: Yow, how am I supposed to stop spam like this? There isn't anything to filter on except the word 'adult'. I guess 'rape' works as well.. But I'm not really inclined to filter messages with the word rape in them, nor give them a

Re: [SAtalk] False positives

2003-12-28 Thread Bob Apthorpe
On Sun, 28 Dec 2003 23:38:15 +0200 cami [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do not know if this is the right place to complain as I could not find an email address that offers feedback to the company. This arrogance stinks, too. As if software developers don't need public feedback about their

Re: [SAtalk] odd problem with spamassassin missing messages...

2003-12-28 Thread Chris Tracy
Hello, I am having a weird problem with spamassassin missing messages completely. Spamd logs that it accepted the mail to syslog but it does not add any headers. This has been happening a lot lately (20x a day or so) and I am unsure if it is an error in my setup or a problem with

Re: [SAtalk] odd problem with spamassassin missing messages...

2003-12-28 Thread Scott Lambert
On Sun, Dec 28, 2003 at 05:56:01PM -0500, Chris Tracy wrote: Hello, I am having a weird problem with spamassassin missing messages completely. Spamd logs that it accepted the mail to syslog but it does not add any headers. This has been happening a lot lately (20x a day or so) and I am

[SAtalk] Sitewide bayes keeps expiring/corrupting and needs rebuild

2003-12-28 Thread Peter Kiem
Hi, I just don't get this. Again this morning I look at my Bayes database and it has gone from 1600+ spam emails known down to 6 and so it is no longer active in SA. It did this about 2 weeks ago as well. No error messages reported anywhere that I can find, it just forgets all the spam emails!

Re: [SAtalk] False positives (fwd)

2003-12-28 Thread Christopher X. Candreva
-- Forwarded message -- Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2003 19:07:34 -0500 (EST) From: Christopher X. Candreva [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SAtalk] False positives On Thu, 25 Dec 2003, schafer wrote: To Spamassassin: My publication is double-opted in by

[SAtalk] Re: Having trouble coding a local rule

2003-12-28 Thread David Gibbs
Peter Kiem wrote: header LOCAL_GOOD_SENDER_11 From =~ /[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ score LOCAL_GOOD_SENDER_11 -2.0 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Why isn't the local rule being activated? Just a guess ... because the From address is not [EMAIL PROTECTED]?

Re: [SAtalk] remove markup question and bayes question

2003-12-28 Thread Martin Radford
At Sun Dec 28 21:33:40 2003, Evan Platt wrote: Also, I've got passed the 200 spams breakpoint for bayes but now it seems that I need 200 hams also before bayes will kick in. here's a fragment from my procmail file Well, kind of. You generally need a equal number of hams to spams for it to

Re: [SAtalk] Re: Having trouble coding a local rule

2003-12-28 Thread Peter Kiem
Just a guess ... because the From address is not [EMAIL PROTECTED]? I thought the from rule worked on the envelope sender of the email and not the easily forged from header :( You might try dropping the [EMAIL PROTECTED] part of the rule and you might have better luck. Yeah I might do that.

Re: [SAtalk] Re: Having trouble coding a local rule

2003-12-28 Thread Scott Lambert
On Mon, Dec 29, 2003 at 10:44:24AM +1000, Peter Kiem wrote: Just a guess ... because the From address is not [EMAIL PROTECTED]? I thought the from rule worked on the envelope sender of the email and not the easily forged from header :( You might try dropping the [EMAIL PROTECTED] part

Re: [SAtalk] Re: Having trouble coding a local rule

2003-12-28 Thread Keith C. Ivey
Peter Kiem [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought the from rule worked on the envelope sender of the email and not the easily forged from header :( What makes you think the envelope sender isn't easily forged? -- Keith C. Ivey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Washington, DC

Re: [SAtalk] Re: Having trouble coding a local rule

2003-12-28 Thread Peter Kiem
Preferably not as if someone does forge it, then the mail goes straight through... Isn't that what whitelist_from_rcvd is for? man Mail::SpamAssassin::Conf The point is I *DON'T* want to whitelist. I wanted just to lower the SA scores with a local rule. -- Regards,

Re: [SAtalk] Re: Having trouble coding a local rule

2003-12-28 Thread Peter Kiem
What makes you think the envelope sender isn't easily forged? OK point taken, but from what I have seen the From headers are *usually* what are forged and not the envelope address. -- Regards, +-+-+ | Peter Kiem.^. |

Re: [SAtalk] Having trouble coding a local rule

2003-12-28 Thread David B Funk
On Mon, 29 Dec 2003, Peter Kiem wrote: Hi, I'm trying to add local rules to allow certain senders that always get caught by SA to lower their scores and give them a better chance of getting through. The rule I added was header LOCAL_GOOD_SENDER_11 From =~ /[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ score

Re: [SAtalk] Re: Having trouble coding a local rule

2003-12-28 Thread David B Funk
On Mon, 29 Dec 2003, Peter Kiem wrote: Preferably not as if someone does forge it, then the mail goes straight through... Isn't that what whitelist_from_rcvd is for? man Mail::SpamAssassin::Conf The point is I *DON'T* want to whitelist. I wanted just to lower the SA scores with a

Re: [SAtalk] Having trouble coding a local rule

2003-12-28 Thread Peter Kiem
Hi David, So you either need to change your rule to match the header from address or code it to look for the envelope from address. What is the rule for matching envelope from address? -- Regards, +-+-+ | Peter Kiem.^.

Re: [SAtalk] Re: Having trouble coding a local rule

2003-12-28 Thread Martin Radford
At Mon Dec 29 01:30:45 2003, Peter Kiem wrote: What makes you think the envelope sender isn't easily forged? OK point taken, but from what I have seen the From headers are *usually* what are forged and not the envelope address. Spammers don't want any trace back to them, and they don't

Re: [SAtalk] Re: Having trouble coding a local rule

2003-12-28 Thread Peter Kiem
Hi David, Actually, 'whitelist_from_rcvd' is the way to go, as it will only apply if -both- the From address and the DNS host name of the sending system match the rule. However looking back at your first post I see that the DNS reverse map for the 'sneezy' system is FUBAR, so you cannot use

Re: [SAtalk] False positives

2003-12-28 Thread Pedro Sam
1. Chill ... 2. Your mail was flagged primarily because of it's HTML nature... There are many online resources and guidelines that can help you write newsletters. Google for them. 3. Your complains are ill-directed, becuase SA is not responsible for your receivers CHOOSING to filter out

[SAtalk] Re: rule modification

2003-12-28 Thread Bob Proulx
skumm wrote: How and where do i modify the rules relating to html in the message body? If it is there period i want marked as spam, so I want to change it's weight to something like 10 if html exists in the message In the beginning, techies designed spamassassin for themselves and HTML

RE: [SAtalk] remove markup question and bayes question

2003-12-28 Thread S. M. C. Butler
No. You *do* need a minimum of 200 hams. The reason behind this is that for Bayes to work, it needs to know *both* what spam looks like *and* what ham looks like so it can tell the difference. But yes, it is best to have a vaguely equal number of both ham and spam (but you can easily

Re[2]: [SAtalk] remove markup question and bayes question

2003-12-28 Thread Robert Menschel
Hello Simon, Sunday, December 28, 2003, 7:51:15 PM, you wrote: No. You *do* need a minimum of 200 hams. The reason behind this is that for Bayes to work, it needs to know *both* what spam looks like *and* what ham looks like so it can tell the difference. But yes, it is best to have a

Re: [SAtalk] False positives

2003-12-28 Thread Tim B
schafer wrote: To Spamassassin: My publication is double-opted in by 15,000 families with children with autism. We are routinely victimized by incompetent software like spamassassin because of false positives. This is just as intolerable as spam. It is worse than spam because it victimizes

[SAtalk] Re: False positives

2003-12-28 Thread Bob Proulx
Hello Lenny Lenny Schafer wrote: To Spamassassin: I am one of the users of Spamassassin. As with many things in the free software world it is a team effort and anyone who takes the time and effort to contribute are part of that team. Which means you often won't find any particular person who

[SAtalk] spamd and user settings

2003-12-28 Thread Gordon Wells
Hi I cannot get spamd to use user_prefs when running spamd -d -a -c -L --user-config as root (v 2.61, suse9). It insists on the global settings. Here is the user_prefs file: rewrite_subject 1 report_header 1 defang_mime 0 razor_timeout 0 use_bayes 1 required_hits 4.5 Is there something I'm