RE: [SAtalk] paris hilton

2003-11-24 Thread ian douglas
Anyone have any good obfuscation rules for p4r1s h1|+0n spam? I'm getting a ton of these every day... http://sandgnat.com/cmos/cmos.jsp gave me a good result, but will not match a plus sign to substitue for a 't' character. -id --- This

RE: [SAtalk] paris hilton

2003-11-24 Thread ian douglas
Haven't seen the spam but one of these should work if your example text is always the same: No, it's different... started out being non-obfuscated, but has gradually gotten more and more l337. -id --- This SF.net email is sponsored by:

[SAtalk] rule help please

2003-11-20 Thread ian douglas
My rule definition: rawbody W98_UNSUBSCRIBE4 /prefer not to(?: ) see/i I want this to catch prefer not to see and prefer not tosee but the (?: ) doesn't seem to catch whether the space exists or not. Spam message contains: If you'd prefer not tosee subsequent offers: I searched through my

RE: [SAtalk] font color=#FFFFFF

2003-11-20 Thread ian douglas
Just my $0.02, but I'd make it this: color=(?\#?F[0-9A-F]F[0-9A-F]F[0-9A-F]?|?white FYI, you should also change color= to color(=|=3D) since I've had some spam slip through because the '=' is converted to =3D in the raw body. -id

RE: [SAtalk] rule help please

2003-11-20 Thread ian douglas
did you mean: rawbody W98_UNSUBSCRIBE4 /prefer not to(?: )?see/i Better yet: rawbody W98_UNSUBSCRIBE4 /prefer not to[ ]?see/i or even: rawbody W98_UNSUBSCRIBE4 /prefer not to ?see/i Ah, didn't know I needed a trailing ? after the set of parentheses, I thought the syntax was only

RE: [SAtalk] font color=#FFFFFF

2003-11-19 Thread ian douglas
describe MY_RBDY_INVSTXTMY: Invisible text color rawbody MY_RBDY_INVSTXT/font\s?.* color=(?\#?F[0-9A-F]?|?white?).*/i scoreMY_RBDY_INVSTXT2.0 Just my $0.02, but I'd make it this: color=(?\#?F[0-9A-F]F[0-9A-F]F[0-9A-F]?|?white .. spammers will use more than just the

RE: [SAtalk] Tracking down thewizard.net forwarder

2003-11-19 Thread ian douglas
to 'pool.com' and/or 'thewizard.net' to solve the problem at the source? Yes. And without reply... I had to deal with this on a mailing list of thousands of users. My only recourse was to write a quick-n-dirty Perl script to run through the subscriber list and send everyone a very

RE: [SAtalk] Runtime problem SA 2.60 on RH 7.3

2003-11-14 Thread ian douglas
Anyway, I downloaded the sources, built it, and installed it with no problems. I rebuilt the Bayes db. When I started it (in debug mode) it logged this and then exited: My first install (2.55) was via CPAN, and upgraded (also via CPAN) to 2.60 on RedHat 7.3 and had zero problems. -id

[SAtalk] RE: upgrade source install to CPAN install

2003-11-13 Thread ian douglas
(sorry, my Email client got all funky on me this morning, yay Microsoft...) Anything that needs to be watched out for when upgrading from source install to CPAN? I usually do source, but figured I would try CPAN for SA, as it has worked great for other packages. I upgraded from a CPAN

RE: [SAtalk] Spam forward

2003-11-12 Thread ian douglas
err, i'm not sure how you setup your spamassasin but i have mailscanner going well cos it supports a virus scanner as well. I second that opinion. MailScanner/ClamAV/SA 2.60, and working great on a small-volume server: Spam/Mail Statistics; Total spamassassin rejected scanner

RE: [SAtalk] Spam forward

2003-11-12 Thread ian douglas
Now you've got me interested. how did you get those stats? I can't take credit for it. I turned on logging in SpamAssassin and MailScanner, and Mike Andrews on the list here submitted a script a few weeks ago that I tweaked a tiny bit although his worked fine on its own. My maillogs rotate on

RE: [SAtalk] Abused redirector URLs ?

2003-11-07 Thread ian douglas
since http://rd.yahoo.com/*http://taint.org works also Man, how hard would it be for Yahoo to look at an environment setting to determine which page referred the user's browser to this redirect, and NOT redirect if the previous page visited was not a Yahoo home page? Geez... Would stop this

RE: [SAtalk] stats script, by (fairly) popular demand - off-topic question

2003-11-07 Thread ian douglas
My new mailstats.pl script (matt's script with a few tweaks) is giving me some grief. My maillog files are named: maillog (for today) maillog.1.gz maillog.2.gz etc maillog.10.gz etc When Matt's script does the 'sort', it sorts it as: maillog maillog.1.gz maillog.10.gz maillog.11.gz

RE: [SAtalk] Delete spam mails

2003-11-07 Thread ian douglas
SpamAssassin drinking game: X sips for How can I get SpamAssassin to delete spams? X sips for Unsubscribe me please X sips for Subscribe me please X sips for Quit reading my e-mail! For every good, tested rule you create that works, everyone else takes X sips

RE: [SAtalk] stats script, by (fairly) popular demand - off-topic question

2003-11-07 Thread ian douglas
my @otherstuff = sort { (my $numa) = ($a =~ m/\.(\d+)\./); (my $numb) = ($b =~ m/\.(\d+)\./); $numa = $numb || $a cmp $b } @stuff; you rock, i owe ya a beer ;o) -id --- This SF.Net email sponsored by: ApacheCon

RE: [SAtalk] SA threshold.. how high?

2003-11-05 Thread ian douglas
seem to catch something 'spamish' in just about any email now.. so my threshold of 5.5 just doesn't seem practical.. What threshold most of you use out there? My low threshold is 5.0, and my high was 8.0, but I found even with Bayes_90 set at 6.00, I still get a ton of spam scoring 7.4-7.8,

RE: [SAtalk] stats script, by (fairly) popular demand

2003-10-30 Thread Ian Douglas
my $s = grep /is spam/, @wholefile; # spam My log does have is spam in the log yet the script is returning 0's for me as well. Trying to hunt it down. I've even tried other strings from the MailScanner-generated logs from /var/log/maillog to no avail. -id

RE: [SAtalk] stats script, by (fairly) popular demand

2003-10-30 Thread Ian Douglas
You will need to adjust the search string to match your mail logs. Here's my maillog snippet: Oct 30 14:12:40 ns1 MailScanner[3201]: New Batch: Scanning 1 messages, 4214 bytes Oct 30 14:12:40 ns1 MailScanner[3201]: Archived message h9UMAPR07828 to mbox file /var/spool/MailScanner/archive Oct

RE: [SAtalk] stats script, by (fairly) popular demand

2003-10-30 Thread Ian Douglas
But the line that contains is spam doesn't seem to increment the counter. /shrug still looking at that myself. ... because I upgraded to SA 2.60 this week and set MailScanner to log spam messages via syslog, which wasn't in place for last week. (slapping self upside the head) For this week so

RE: [SAtalk] SpamAss is tagging my own emails

2003-10-27 Thread Ian Douglas
Rather than reducing the values of those scores, why don't you: 1) Have outgoing email not get checked by SA (what's the point of that anyway?) It keeps your own users in line by dumping any spam before they send it through your box. Great for trapping any open relay issues as well, I'd think.

RE: [SAtalk] IP Blocks to kill at the firewall?

2003-10-24 Thread Ian Douglas
http://www.stearns.org/sa-blacklist/sa-blacklist.current What's the best way to implement this? Add it on to the end of my MailScanner's pref's file for SA? -id --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: The SF.net Donation Program. Do you like

RE: [SAtalk] IP Blocks to kill at the firewall?

2003-10-24 Thread ian douglas
Am I the only one who's received a half dozen copies of this reply from Chris from the mailing list? Chris, is your mailer stuck in a loop or something? -id -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Chris Trudeau Sent: Thursday, October 23,

[SAtalk] perhaps more of a mailscanner question?

2003-10-24 Thread ian douglas
Right now I have MailScanner configured to delete high scoring spam so it doesn't end up in my user's mailbox, but what about the 'bounce' option? I'd *really* like to find a way to spoof a 550 error or a 'user unknown' error that bounces back, just in case the people on the other end ARE

RE: [SAtalk] [RD] Domain has digits - test rules

2003-10-23 Thread Ian Douglas
My primary domain is w98.us, my other domain is wild98.com ... so effectively you'd cancel out my Email, correct? -id -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Fred I-IS.COM Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 12:24 PM To: Spamassassin-Talk

RE: [SAtalk] How to update old version of SpamAssassin

2003-10-22 Thread ian douglas
Going from 2.5x to 2.6x should be pretty painless and just work.. the only problem cases I've seen are when people use spamd with -u root (2.60's spamd bails out if you try to force it to always run as root). If we're not using spamd, can a CPAN shell 'install' for SA upgrade without a

RE: [SAtalk] How BIG are 'auto-whitlist' files supposed to get?

2003-10-22 Thread Ian Douglas
If you allow shell access, you therefore effectively allow any user to meddle with any other user's SA prefs, AWL, and Bayes files if you do per-user Bayes as well. :/ Not an issue with chroot'd shell access though ;o) -id --- This

RE: [SAtalk] [OT] What is next step?

2003-10-22 Thread Ian Douglas
Altho not thru SA, I created a set of programs that scan my qmail queue for doublebounces whatnot, scan the headers of normal messages and/or doublebounces log the IP addresses into a postgresql database. sendmail has an operative for double bounces to redirect those messages to another

RE: [SAtalk] How BIG are 'auto-whitlist' files supposed to get?

2003-10-21 Thread Ian Douglas
Charles Gregory wrote: When we first started using SA, I kept a casual eye on the personal files in .spamassassin, and did not see anything particularly problematic, but NOW I see auto-whitelist and 'bayes' files that are exceeding 1MB in size, each. Is this 'normal'? Any permission

RE: [SAtalk] Sendmail STMP NDR

2003-10-20 Thread Ian Douglas
We are having a problem with our backend server filling up the root mailbox with NDRs of users that are no longer with the company and I am trying to get my brain wrapped around the whole SMTP process. If the postmaster account is filling up with messages about trying to notify the original

RE: [SAtalk] infinite-monkeys

2003-10-18 Thread ian douglas
Spammers DDoS'd them off the net. Stop checking their DNSBL and tell others to stop using it too. monkeys.com is dead. Okay, thanks. -id --- This SF.net email sponsored by: Enterprise Linux Forum Conference Expo The Event For Linux

[SAtalk] infinite-monkeys

2003-10-17 Thread ian douglas
Anyone have any information on infinite-monkeys on how to contact them regarding getting removed from their systems? When I enable IM in my MailScanner setup for SpamAssassin, all outgoing mail from my servers gets kicked into la-la land - I scan all outgoing Email - because it's matching on

[SAtalk] Infinite-Monkeys

2003-09-15 Thread ian douglas
Hey folks. Left the list for a while but re-subscribed 'cause I have a question to ask: I have MailScanner running SA for me on 2 different servers and got everything working VERY well about two months ago. Within the last 3 weeks, both servers, which are secured and protected against open

[SAtalk] wow, this was a nice change

2003-08-14 Thread Ian Douglas
I currently have MailScanner set to archive all incoming messages to grab Email for sa-learn. In the archive, before MY SpamAssassin headers get added, I saw this message and had to chuckle: Received: from localhost [127.0.0.1] by quantum.paraphysics.com with SpamAssassin (2.55

RE: [SAtalk] user prefs file

2003-08-14 Thread Ian Douglas
I'm new to spamassassin. I'm using spamassassin and sendmail installed from redhat 9. I also have Mailscanner installed. It looks like spamassassin doesn't look at the users user_prefs file. Is there a way to configure spamassassin to look at the user_prefs file? The MailScanner.conf file

RE: [SAtalk] New dns tests to indicate spam?

2003-08-14 Thread Ian Douglas
This can be quickly pulled from a whois lookup. There's always the catch that the standard 'whois' lookup will only look for .com, .net and .edu domains. If you get a 2-letter domain like .us or .ca or .it, etc., you need to use a specialized whois tool. Anyone know of an any more global whois

[SAtalk] spam joke

2003-08-14 Thread Ian Douglas
Just got this from TopFive's Ruminations collection: I think spammers are starting to lose it. Just today I received an offer to lower my mortgage by three inches. - James Smarjesse Thought it was hilarious and wanted to share it with fellow spam-blocking enthusiasts! -id obligatory

RE: [SAtalk] stuff in white list getting tagged

2003-08-08 Thread Ian Douglas
I have some domain mail that is getting tagged as spam that is in my whitelist.cf. It almost appears the math is getting computed backwards. If something is getting an auto-whitelist adjustment shouldn't it be a negative number? Better yet, if something is in the whitelist shouldn't it get

[SAtalk] [RD] 0.00 rule values? why bother?

2003-07-31 Thread Ian Douglas
I just got two pieces of Email, and they had these SA headers: (this one wasn't spam, it was a mailing list with advertisements throughout) X-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=5.1, required 6, CLICK_BELOW 0.00, CONSOLIDATE_DEBT 1.10, LOW_INTEREST 2.29, NO_FEE

[SAtalk] RE: [RD] 0.00 rule values? why bother?

2003-07-31 Thread Ian Douglas
(this one WAS spam, I've since trained and added rules for the content) X-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=5.1, required 6, AWL 0.00, FROM_OFFERS 4.30, OFFERS_ETC 0.37) Here I suspect the average of emails from this address is nearly zero (or perhaps your AWL

RE: [SAtalk] those pesky small v*agra ads

2003-07-31 Thread ian douglas
H, maybe we should make some new rules that test the ratio of invisible text to visible text? But if the background is BLACK, white text is perfectly acceptable ... right? So defining visible vs invisible is your toughest chore. -id

[SAtalk] mis-calculation?

2003-07-31 Thread ian douglas
X-MailScanner-SpamCheck: spam, SpamAssassin (score=7.4, required 6, AWL 0.00, BAYES_30 -0.93, HTML_40_50 0.74, HTML_FONT_COLOR_BLUE 0.10, MIME_HTML_ONLY 0.10) 0.00 + -0.93 + 0.74 + 0.10 + 0.10 --- does NOT equal 7.4 ... I'm no math genius but my $2000 calculator here

RE: [SAtalk] G-a-p-p-y text

2003-07-31 Thread Ian Douglas
(Side question, what's a good gap class, \A or [-_*/\. ], or... ?) I see spaces, periods, tildes (~), and short comment markers a lot (!A) -id --- This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites including Data Reports,

[SAtalk] [RD] tiny comment 'gaps'

2003-07-30 Thread Ian Douglas
Hey all, Got a spam with a whole bunch of !A or !H or some other letter of the alphabet separating various 'catch' words/phrases. I'd like to do something like this: body COMMENT_GAPS_1/\![A-Z]/i describe COMMENT_GAPS_1!A !B etc score COMMENT_GAPS_10.1 body

RE: [SAtalk] [RD] rule discussion

2003-07-30 Thread Ian Douglas
hmm, eval tests for idiots, kinda sounds like loaded shotguns for idiots, should reduce the idiot count but is that really what is desired? :) Oh, I'd be quite happy with less idiots in the world ;o) Wait, was that out loud? -id --- This

RE: [SAtalk] [RD] tiny comment 'gaps', --lint

2003-07-30 Thread Ian Douglas
But I purposely set one of my rules to awbody instead of rawbody and --lint didn't catch it. Which version of SA are you running? 2.55 --- This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites including Data Reports,

RE: [SAtalk] Block an entire Network?

2003-07-28 Thread ian douglas
a friend blocked all mail from france as a joke once, cos he didn't like the french and didn't know anyone there cut down on spam by 95% I block a lot of Asia Pacific, some European countries, etc., at a firewall level on port 25 because I don't know anybody there either and the mail coming

RE: [SAtalk] bayes question

2003-07-26 Thread ian douglas
First, run spamassassin -tD sample-spam.txt.. look at the debug output. Is bayes even enabled? are there enough tokens? debug: Score set 0 chosen. debug: running in taint mode? no debug: using /usr/share/spamassassin for default rules dir debug: using /etc/mail/spamassassin for site rules dir

RE: [SAtalk] bayes question

2003-07-26 Thread ian douglas
debug: debug: Only 86 ham(s) in Bayes DB 200 There's your answer as to why Bayes isn't scoring for you. Gotcha, thanks. -id --- This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites including Data Reports, E-commerce, Portals,

RE: [SAtalk] spam funny

2003-07-25 Thread Ian Douglas
When I saw your title I was hoping for a chuckle. I have a friend that works at Hormel ...I'm sure I could get all kinds of Spam humor from her. (Hormel makes the meat they call SPAM) Like wise we can go on with more consonants: score MY_CONSONANT_4 0.15 score MY_CONSONANT_5 0.30

[SAtalk] bayes question

2003-07-25 Thread Ian Douglas
I've been putting sa-learn through the gears with many thousands of spam messages (gotta love web hosting 100+ domains most of which do nothing but collect spam /sigh). I'm curious how Bayes is *supposed* to be learning... I find that despite learning from hundreds of MB of spam that spam is

[SAtalk] sa-learn question

2003-07-24 Thread ian douglas
I've been lurking about reading up on training ham mailboxes but don't generally keep mail on my Linux servers... unless I start making aliases and extra mailboxes to keep copies on the server and filter it all by hand. Can sa-learn read Outlook mailboxes? Or does anyone have any