[SAtalk] Bayes

2002-12-04 Thread Tom Allison
I have version 2.43. Where are the BAYES filter settings? How do I configure them. -- "Remember, extremism in the nondefense of moderation is not a virtue." -- Peter Neumann, about usenet --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Visual

[SAtalk] bayes score

2002-11-12 Thread sandra
HI, I have run sa-learn-spam on my spam folders , but when I forward a mail message again to me that had already been learned by spamassassin, it scores very low points to it (bayes_20, bayes_30) , but never considers the message spam. What is it? Do I have to define rules for every spam

Re: [SAtalk] Bayes

2002-12-04 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 06:03:33AM -0500, Tom Allison wrote: > I have version 2.43. > Where are the BAYES filter settings? > How do I configure them. Bayes is a 2.50 (CVS/development) feature. You shouldn't run 2.50 unless you like living on the edge. -- Randomly Generated Tagline: "It timed me

[SAtalk] Bayes problem?

2003-02-19 Thread Tony Hoyle
SA 2.5 had its first miss for me today. It was a 'you are watching this thread' from The Edge website... OK they deserved it (there was no 'To:', it had faked Outlook when it clearly wasn't, etc. By the time I caught it, there had been a couple of dozen of these (active thread, presumably).

RE: [SAtalk] Bayes

2003-02-20 Thread Dallas Engelken
> -Original Message- > From: Justin Mason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 1:13 PM > To: Larry Rosenman > Cc: Louis LeBlanc; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; David Rees > Subject: Re: [SAtalk] Bayes > > > > Larry Rosenman said: > &g

Re: [SAtalk] Bayes

2003-02-20 Thread Justin Mason
"Dallas Engelken" said: > > > Is auto-learn supposed to need a sa-learn --rebuild on a "periodic" > > > basis, or will it do it by itself? > > > > It'll do it iteslf, but if you have a really busy site, you > > may want to > > pick a time yourself, and run this script from cron. > > > > --j. >

Re: [SAtalk] bayes score

2002-11-12 Thread Justin Mason
sandra said: >I have run sa-learn-spam on my spam folders , but > when I forward a mail message again to me that > had already been learned by spamassassin, it scores > very low points to it (bayes_20, bayes_30) , but never > considers the message spam. have you run sa-learn-nonspam as well?

Re: [SAtalk] bayes score

2002-11-12 Thread Justin Mason
Justin Mason said: > To examine how SpamAssassin is making its diagnosis, run with -D -- > this will print out debugging lines for each of the top tokens it > uses to compute the overall result. hmm, I should go into this in more detail: you want to keep an eye out for lines like: debug: bayes

Re: [SAtalk] bayes score

2002-11-12 Thread Tom Allison
sandra wrote: HI, I have run sa-learn-spam on my spam folders , but when I forward a mail message again to me that had already been learned by spamassassin, it scores very low points to it (bayes_20, bayes_30) , but never considers the message spam. What is it? Do I have to define rules

RE: [SAtalk] Bayes binding...

2003-02-07 Thread Dallas Engelken
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On > Behalf Of Brian > May > Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 2:32 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [SAtalk] Bayes binding... > > > when I start the latest CVS tar.gz f

[SAtalk] Bayes and autolearn

2003-02-20 Thread Rose, Bobby
I have a bunchn of bayes.lock.host. files piling up in my ~/.spamassassin directory. Is there a cleanup problem? --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SlickEdit Inc. Develop an edge. The most comprehensive and flexible code editor you can

Re: [SAtalk] Bayes database

2003-02-21 Thread Ray Dzek
Okay .. I found tools, no problem... But .. since SA runs as a non-privledged user with no logon on a site-wide install, how do you run the tools to see what that db has in it? SA wants to see the db under /root/.spamassassin. SA runs as the user "filter" which has no logon. Ray

[SAtalk] Bayes and SpamAssassin markup?

2002-11-23 Thread Michael Moncur
Is it OK to run sa-learn-spam and sa-learn-nonspam on messages that include spamassassin markup (just headers, no body reports)? Or is bayes going to start turning SA headers into tokens and potentially getting strange results? While I'm at it, does mass-check ignore SA markup or do I need to remo

[SAtalk] Bayes: compared to bogofilter

2003-01-04 Thread Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder
Yo! I didn't follow this mailing list long enough - how does the bayes algorithm of 2.5 compare to bogofilter? I find bogofilter does a very good job currently, no false positives at all; and most false negatives get caught by sa and are fed back to bogofilter so it can learn... cheers -- vbi -

FW: [SAtalk] Bayes site-wide?

2003-03-11 Thread Lucas Albers
After upgrading the perl db for SA, do you have to do anything to the existing databases? Or does it just work…   -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Simon Byrnand   2.50 by default auto-learns from ham with scores less than -2 an

[SAtalk] Bayes broken in latest CVS?

2002-11-18 Thread Graham Murray
I updated from CVS about an hours ago and bayes has stopped working. It seems as though it is now trying to use different files than it did before. Is there anything that needs to be done to make Bayes continue to work? --- This sf.net email is

Re: [SAtalk] Bayes: compared to bogofilter

2003-01-04 Thread Tony L. Svanstrom
On Sat, 4 Jan 2003 the voices made Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder write: ADvB> I find bogofilter does a very good job currently, no false positives at ADvB> all; and most false negatives get caught by sa and are fed back to ADvB> bogofilter so it can learn... Take a closer look at those fa

Re: [SAtalk] Bayes and Nigerian spams

2003-02-23 Thread Gerry Doris
On Sun, 23 Feb 2003, Theo Van Dinter wrote: > On Mon, Feb 24, 2003 at 12:10:59PM +1300, Simon Byrnand wrote: > > Anyone agree/disagree with this ? The question is what to do about it, > > Well, all I can say is that it works pretty well for me. 2.50 has been picking off the Nigerian spams for m

Re: [SAtalk] Bayes broken in latest CVS?

2002-11-18 Thread Justin Mason
Graham Murray said: > I updated from CVS about an hours ago and bayes has stopped > working. It seems as though it is now trying to use different files > than it did before. Is there anything that needs to be done to make > Bayes continue to work? I just checked in a change which makes major imp

[SAtalk] BAYES working except in spam mails...

2003-03-12 Thread Jan-Peter Koopmann
Hi folks, finally BAYES works with MailScanner. Now I noticed that it only works in mails that are not marked as spam anyways... Not a single mail in my spam folder has a BAYES score assigned to it. When I run this mail throug spamassassin -t it gets a score. I wrote a debug file overnight and fou

[SAtalk] Bayes classification: how do I know it's working?

2002-11-22 Thread francisv
Hi, I've setup another server to try out version 2.5.0. I already trained it to identify spam but not yet non-spam messages. How do I know it's working? --- francis a. vidal [bitstop network services] | http://www.bitstop.ph streaming media + web hosting | http://www.keystone.ph

Re: [SAtalk] Bayes classification: how do I know it's working?

2002-11-23 Thread Matthew Cline
On Friday 22 November 2002 11:08 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi, > > I've setup another server to try out version 2.5.0. I already trained > it to identify spam but not yet non-spam messages. How do I know it's > working? You can't, not until you train it with a non-spam corpus as well. How t

[SAtalk] bayes, spamd, and future of per-user/per-system bayes

2002-10-30 Thread Liudvikas Bukys
Bug? The bayes code in 2.50 doesn't get invoked from spamd because there is no hook from handle_user to [re]open the bayes databases. I have to think this is an oversight, but I thought I'd better ask. * Should spamd do this? The learn code is a bit slow and if the authors are open to code submis

Re: [SAtalk] Bayes is enabled, but not being included in tests

2003-03-26 Thread Tim B
Don't know if this one of your problems or not, but you might want to look at adding: bayes_file_mode since you are using a site wide configuration. Also make sure the user that spamassassin is running as has the proper read and write permissions to the files defined in your bayes_path stateme

Re: [SAtalk] bayes, spamd, and future of per-user/per-system bayes

2002-10-30 Thread Justin Mason
Liudvikas Bukys said: > Bug? The bayes code in 2.50 doesn't get invoked from spamd because there > is no hook from handle_user to [re]open the bayes databases. > I have to think this is an oversight, but I thought I'd better ask. > * Should spamd do this? This should now be fixed in CVS... > T