Re: [SAtalk] Weird false-negative from USER_IN_WHITELIST

2003-11-20 Thread Matt Kettler
At 02:58 PM 11/20/2003, Marcio Merlone wrote: local.cf:whitelist_from_rcvd * .com.br be white-listing everything? That will white-list every email that passes through a mailserver named .com.br. If .com.br is your mail server name... then yes, you're whitelisting everything. The po

[SAtalk] Weird false-negative from USER_IN_WHITELIST

2003-11-20 Thread Marcio Merlone
Hello, A spam just came through my server, and it got -100 from the rule USER_IN_WHITELIST. But that is NOT in my white-list! [EMAIL PROTECTED] spamassassin]# pwd /etc/mail/spamassassin [EMAIL PROTECTED] spamassassin]# grep -v "^#" *|grep -i white local.cf:whitelist_to [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL

Re: [SAtalk] Weird false negative

2002-12-20 Thread Drav Sloan
Ives Aerts wrote: > Which version was that? I'm using SA 2.43; eagerly awaiting the 2.50 > release... Umm the version was in the headers I posted ;) 2.43 D. --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: The Best Geek Holiday Gifts! Time is running

Re: [SAtalk] Weird false negative

2002-12-20 Thread Ives Aerts
On Fri, Dec 20, 2002 at 09:01:08AM +, Drav Sloan wrote: > Ives Aerts wrote: > > I was *very* surprised that the attached spam, although seeming quite > > obvious, only scored 4.8. Strange... > > I recieved the same spam (diff subject/sender/rcipient/to/from): > That seemed to score much higher

Re: [SAtalk] Weird false negative

2002-12-20 Thread Drav Sloan
Ives Aerts wrote: > I was *very* surprised that the attached spam, although seeming quite > obvious, only scored 4.8. Strange... I recieved the same spam (diff subject/sender/rcipient/to/from): That seemed to score much higher: X-Spam-Status: Yes, hits=15.3 required=5.0 tests=CALL_FREE,FO

[SAtalk] Weird false negative

2002-12-20 Thread Ives Aerts
I was *very* surprised that the attached spam, although seeming quite obvious, only scored 4.8. Strange... Anyway, I shouldn't forget to send my best wishes to the whole SA community. Thanks for a superb piece of software which makes my life a whole lot more enjoyable! Cheers, -Ives _

Re: [SAtalk] Weird false negative...

2002-05-19 Thread Craig R Hughes
Yes, will do, if it's changed. This actually makes me think the default_whitelist idea is one I should think more about. C Andrew Kohlsmith wrote: AK> > If it's yanked out, all I ask is that the upgrade docs make this clear AK> > so that I can put some of 'em back in my local site-wide whiteli

Re: [SAtalk] Weird false negative...

2002-05-19 Thread Craig R Hughes
Yes, it would be documented. I'm planing on having a human-generated CHANGES doc to go along with the CVS-log generated changelog to draw attention to the more significant changes for upgraders. C Jeremy Zawodny wrote: JZ> On Wed, May 15, 2002 at 04:29:03AM -0600, Michael Moncur wrote: JZ> > >

RE: [SAtalk] Weird false negative...

2002-05-19 Thread Craig R Hughes
MM> Here's an idea: keep the whitelist but make a separate MM> default_whitelist_from directive that acts the same as whitelist_from but MM> can have its own score, and use default_whitelist_from in 60_whitelist.cf. MM> That way (a) anyone can turn off the default whitelist with a single score MM>

RE: [SAtalk] Weird false negative...

2002-05-19 Thread Craig R Hughes
Skip Montanaro wrote: SM> ... it also helps that they be addresses of big companies with lots of SM> lawyers, so if spammers impersonate them, they'll get into big trouble, SM> ... SM> SM> I think this assumption is false. The lawyers at most big corporations have SM> enough to do wi

Re: [SAtalk] Weird false negative...

2002-05-17 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
> If it's yanked out, all I ask is that the upgrade docs make this clear > so that I can put some of 'em back in my local site-wide whitelist. I would humbly suggest BIG FLASHY LETTERS explaining this -- it is a very important point. Regards, Andrew

Re: [SAtalk] Weird false negative...

2002-05-16 Thread Jeremy Zawodny
On Wed, May 15, 2002 at 04:29:03AM -0600, Michael Moncur wrote: > >Using the -t flag I'm told the USER_IN_WHITELIST test contributed a -100 to > >the hits. Unfortunately, I don't have any ebay.com addresses (or glob > >patterns involving ebay.com) in my user_prefs file. > > I think the 60_whitel

Re: [SAtalk] Weird false negative...

2002-05-15 Thread Collin Forbes
On Wed, May 15, 2002 at 07:58:10PM -0600, Michael Moncur wrote: > > Since this sort of thing is becoming common, I've started using whitelist_to > instead for things like PayPal and Ameritrade, using a special address for > each. (I tell PayPal my address is [EMAIL PROTECTED], and then > whitelis

Re: [SAtalk] Weird false negative...

2002-05-15 Thread Daniel Quinlan
Craig R Hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > How many have you seen? I suppose it's probably our fault; spammers > are probably forging those domains precisely to bypass SA. It might > well be time to remove 60_whitelist.cf I doubt it. Prior to SA, if I got an email from "[EMAIL PROTECTED]",

Re: [SAtalk] Weird false negative...

2002-05-15 Thread Michael C. Berch
On Wednesday, May 15, 2002, at 06:58 PM, Michael Moncur wrote: > Since this sort of thing [forged return address from legitimate > business] > is becoming common, I've started using whitelist_to > instead for things like PayPal and Ameritrade, using a special address > for > each. (I tell PayPa

RE: [SAtalk] Weird false negative...

2002-05-15 Thread Michael Moncur
> How many have you seen? I suppose it's probably our fault; spammers are > probably forging those domains precisely to bypass SA. It might > well be time to > remove 60_whitelist.cf The only one I've seen that might have been intended to deceive SA was one with an @amazon.com address for no go

RE: [SAtalk] Weird false negative...

2002-05-15 Thread Skip Montanaro
me> Using the -t flag I'm told the USER_IN_WHITELIST test contributed a me> -100 to the hits. Unfortunately, I don't have any ebay.com me> addresses (or glob patterns involving ebay.com) in my user_prefs me> file. Craig> How many have you seen? I suppose it's probably our f

RE: [SAtalk] Weird false negative...

2002-05-15 Thread Craig R Hughes
How many have you seen? I suppose it's probably our fault; spammers are probably forging those domains precisely to bypass SA. It might well be time to remove 60_whitelist.cf C Michael Moncur wrote: MM> >Using the -t flag I'm told the USER_IN_WHITELIST test contributed a -100 to MM> >the hits

RE: [SAtalk] Weird false negative...

2002-05-15 Thread Neulinger, Nathan
ces Fax: (573) 341-4216 > -Original Message- > From: Michael Moncur [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 7:52 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [SAtalk] Weird false negative... > > > > I think the

RE: [SAtalk] Weird false negative...

2002-05-15 Thread Michael Moncur
> I think the 60_whitelist.cf file really needs to go away. Forged > @ebay.com, > @paypal.com, and @amazon.com addresses are becoming all too common in > spam... Or maybe there's a way to whitelist on Received: headers rather than From: headers? I know these can be forged too, but I doubt spammer

RE: [SAtalk] Weird false negative...

2002-05-15 Thread Michael Moncur
>Using the -t flag I'm told the USER_IN_WHITELIST test contributed a -100 to >the hits. Unfortunately, I don't have any ebay.com addresses (or glob >patterns involving ebay.com) in my user_prefs file. I think the 60_whitelist.cf file really needs to go away. Forged @ebay.com, @paypal.com, and @a

Re: [SAtalk] Weird false negative...

2002-05-14 Thread Klaus Heinz
Hi Skip Montanaro, you wrote: > the hits. Unfortunately, I don't have any ebay.com addresses (or glob > patterns involving ebay.com) in my user_prefs file. I am running SA in the You don't have it in user_prefs, but in the global 60_whitelist.cf: whitelist_from *@ebay.com whitelist_from

[SAtalk] Weird false negative...

2002-05-14 Thread Skip Montanaro
I've been using SA for a few weeks and like it pretty well. It gives me some occasional false +ives, but not a huge number. I got a false -ive today that has me scratching my head though. Here are the headers: Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Received: from cali-2.pobox.com (cali-2.pob