Re: [SAtalk] botched MIME tests?

2002-05-29 Thread Craig R Hughes
Nigel Metheringham wrote: NM> Melissa (if I had 1% of the money saved by some ISPs by that filter NM> during the Melissa and its successors storms I would be writing this NM> from my state-of-the-art wireless networked laptop whilst sipping a cold NM> drink on a carribean beach :-) ). I'll be th

Re: [SAtalk] botched MIME tests?

2002-05-24 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Fri, May 24, 2002 at 09:06:43AM -0700, Marc MERLIN wrote: > > Its lame, I no longer use it much myself (theres a couple of places its > > not been removed from) even though I wrote the thing, but its cheap > > (money and MTA resources) and suprisingly effective against things like > > Yeah, I

Re: [SAtalk] botched MIME tests?

2002-05-24 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Fri, May 24, 2002 at 10:01:15AM +0100, Nigel Metheringham wrote: > > You'd have thought the least a header regexp would do is bind to the > > start of the line! > > The problem with the exim filter stuff is it was never designed to be > able to do this and it *can't* bind to start of line (th

Re: [SAtalk] botched MIME tests?

2002-05-24 Thread Matt Sergeant
Nigel Metheringham wrote: > The problem with the exim filter stuff is it was never designed to be > able to do this and it *can't* bind to start of line (the string its > matching against is a concaternated set of lines from the message - > without newlines). > > Its lame, I no longer use it much

Re: [SAtalk] botched MIME tests?

2002-05-24 Thread Nigel Metheringham
On Fri, 2002-05-24 at 09:40, Matt Sergeant wrote: > Marc MERLIN wrote: > > On Mon, May 20, 2002 at 09:59:55AM +0100, Matt Sergeant wrote: > > > >>Ugh, looks like SourceForge installed a lame text filter that attempts > >>to do virus protection (incorrectly, brokenly)... So my email didn't get >

Re: [SAtalk] botched MIME tests?

2002-05-24 Thread Matt Sergeant
Marc MERLIN wrote: > On Mon, May 20, 2002 at 09:59:55AM +0100, Matt Sergeant wrote: > >>Ugh, looks like SourceForge installed a lame text filter that attempts >>to do virus protection (incorrectly, brokenly)... So my email didn't get >>through. > > > Just in case you are curious, it's the "s

Re: [SAtalk] botched MIME tests?

2002-05-23 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Mon, May 20, 2002 at 09:59:55AM +0100, Matt Sergeant wrote: > Ugh, looks like SourceForge installed a lame text filter that attempts > to do virus protection (incorrectly, brokenly)... So my email didn't get > through. Just in case you are curious, it's the "standard" exim mime filter, and

Re: [SAtalk] botched MIME tests?

2002-05-22 Thread Craig R Hughes
Daniel Quinlan wrote: DQ> Craig R Hughes writes: DQ> DQ> > full MIME_SUSPECT eval:mime_suspect('/path/to/mime.types') DQ> DQ> I looked at those MIME types that tended to be connected to unsolicited DQ> email (spam and viruses) or generally frequent and hard-coded those DQ> types. I also

Re: [SAtalk] botched MIME tests?

2002-05-21 Thread Matt Sergeant
Daniel Quinlan wrote: > Matt Sergeant writes: > > >>Every single one of these is a virus, not spam. > > > I think it's a worm, actually Call it what you like. It's still malicious code designed purely to propogate (and perhaps do something evil while it does so). In no way is it unsolicited

Re: [SAtalk] botched MIME tests?

2002-05-20 Thread Daniel Quinlan
Matt Sergeant writes: > Every single one of these is a virus, not spam. I think it's a worm, actually, but the headers are forged so I don't know who's sending them, so unlike a trojan being sent from a co-worker, it's basically unsolicited email that should be filtered. I think trying to not f

Re: [SAtalk] botched MIME tests?

2002-05-20 Thread Matt Sergeant
; Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 09:30:34 +0100 From: Matt Sergeant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.0rc1) Gecko/20020426 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Vivek Khera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [

Re: [SAtalk] botched MIME tests?

2002-05-20 Thread Matt Sergeant
Craig R Hughes wrote: > Matt Sergeant wrote: > > MS> My MIME parser (posted to the dev list) croaks on invalid MIME. In > MS> testing about 30,000 emails it only croaks on spams, so far. > MS> > MS> I just wish I had time to implement it inside SA (it's a big job as > MS> currently SA's mail pars

Re: [SAtalk] botched MIME tests?

2002-05-19 Thread Daniel Quinlan
Craig R Hughes writes: > Sounds like a nice rule. Is this an eval which reads mailcap? Or > an apache-style mime.types file? Or just a simple rule where you're > encoding the type<->extension rules? I think if the rule looked > like: > > full MIME_SUSPECT eval:mime_suspect('/path/to

Re: [SAtalk] botched MIME tests?

2002-05-19 Thread Craig R Hughes
Matt Sergeant wrote: MS> My MIME parser (posted to the dev list) croaks on invalid MIME. In MS> testing about 30,000 emails it only croaks on spams, so far. MS> MS> I just wish I had time to implement it inside SA (it's a big job as MS> currently SA's mail parsing is a bit all over the shop). No

Re: [SAtalk] botched MIME tests?

2002-05-19 Thread Craig R Hughes
Daniel Quinlan wrote: DQ> MIME_SUSPECT_NAME MIME filename does not match MIME content type Sounds like a nice rule. Is this an eval which reads mailcap? Or an apache-style mime.types file? Or just a simple rule where you're encoding the type<->extension rules? I think if the rule look

Re: [SAtalk] botched MIME tests?

2002-05-16 Thread Matt Sergeant
Vivek Khera wrote: > I read email with VM in XEmacs, and every once in a while it complains > about bothced MIME like this: > > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Learn How To Grow Your Portfolio >9806Dl5 > Date: Wed, 15 May 2002

Re: [SAtalk] botched MIME tests?

2002-05-15 Thread dman
On Wed, May 15, 2002 at 07:56:40PM -0700, Daniel Quinlan wrote: ... | Another idea: what about a negative score for emails containing RFC | 934 encapsulated messages? | | $ egrep -hi '^--* end.* -*-$' *[0-9] | count | 7 --- End of forwarded message --- | 8 --- end

Re: [SAtalk] botched MIME tests?

2002-05-15 Thread Skip Montanaro
Dan> The NO_REAL_NAME is not too meaningful since it matches 423 Dan> messages with only 244 being spam... This is one for which I suspect different people running the masses stuff would get substantially different values, depending on their Internet "circle of friends". I run a website

Re: [SAtalk] botched MIME tests?

2002-05-15 Thread Daniel Quinlan
Vivek Khera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I've had exactly 1 message in three years for which this missing > boundary was not a SPAM (which seems to be some mailing list software > that did that botching on an attachment). There doesn't seem to be a > correlation with X-Mailer header, Does. > >

[SAtalk] botched MIME tests?

2002-05-15 Thread Vivek Khera
I read email with VM in XEmacs, and every once in a while it complains about bothced MIME like this: From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Learn How To Grow Your Portfolio 9806Dl5 Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 11:40:15 -0700 final =_NextP