Re: [spectre] // The State of Art //

2011-08-06 Diskussionsfäden Louise Desrenards
yes, I agree On 6 August 2011 22:21, simon wrote: > The empty secret of the conspiracy of the state counterweights and > correlates with the conspiracy of art. Except for this performance Louise > talks about. And this humour. > > Best, > > Simon Taylor > > www.squarewhiteworld.com > > __

Re: [spectre] // The State of Art //

2011-08-06 Diskussionsfäden Louise Desrenards
> do not feel guilty, we arrive at a time when young people are unaware > of analysis which work in real time against their symbolic issues that > have marked our generation and the immediate next ... and they > reinterpret the texts in line in the current time. This > misunderstanding is that the

Re: [spectre] // The State of Art //

2011-08-06 Diskussionsfäden simon
The empty secret of the conspiracy of the state counterweights and correlates with the conspiracy of art. Except for this performance Louise talks about. And this humour. Best, Simon Taylor www.squarewhiteworld.com __ SPECTRE list for media culture

Re: [spectre] // The State of Art //

2011-08-06 Diskussionsfäden Aliette Guibert-Certhoux
do not feel guilty, we arrive at a time when young people are unaware of analysis which work in real time against their symbolic issues that have marked our generation and the immediate next ... and they reinterpret the texts in line in the current time. This misunderstanding is that the authors co

[spectre] Art & Science at CERN

2011-08-06 Diskussionsfäden Paul Brown
Art and Sub-Atomic Particles Collide at European Organization for Nuclear Research "GENEVA (REUTERS).- CERN, focus of research into the Big Bang and what makes the universe tick, on Thursday announced a new program -- fusing science with art to encourage painting and music inspired by the wonde

Re: [spectre] // The State of Art //

2011-08-06 Diskussionsfäden Louise Desrenards
Don't confuse Baudrillard attitude with Jean Clair attitude about the conspiracy;-) the conspiracy of art was a pleasant suggestion @ Baudrillard like the art as object conspiring itself as subject --following his implicit idea that all the fate of the subject was transfered now in the object (his

Re: [spectre] // The State of Art //

2011-08-06 Diskussionsfäden Louise Desrenards
Probably yes. But his last conference @ Whitney Biennal (end of the eighties) where he dismissed the pending of positive words to renew the concepts of contemporary arts was exactly that proposition from which they began to hate him for a long in NY. So it is exactly from where he wrote "Conspiracy

Re: [spectre] // The State of Art //

2011-08-06 Diskussionsfäden hello | florian kuhlmann
hi to all, Am 06.08.2011 um 18:30 schrieb Simon Biggs: > Jean has hit the nail on the head with that one. I think he could go further > and propose that the art market abolishes art, at least within the domain > that is the art world, which now equates to the art market. hope you dont perceive

Re: [spectre] // The State of Art //

2011-08-06 Diskussionsfäden Simon Biggs
Jean has hit the nail on the head with that one. I think he could go further and propose that the art market abolishes art, at least within the domain that is the art world, which now equates to the art market. best Simon On 6 Aug 2011, at 16:40, Julian Oliver wrote: > "Behind this mechanica

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2011-08-06 Diskussionsfäden info
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Re: [spectre] // The State of Art //

2011-08-06 Diskussionsfäden Louise Desrenards
so what? Lampoon is lampoon it is a simulation in real aspect of what it criticizes: "Du miroir et de l'écran, de la pensée radicale / On the mirror and on the screen, on the radical thought Abstract: Certitude does not exist. Are you sure? (Instabilité et métastabilité / Instability and metast

Re: [spectre] // The State of Art //

2011-08-06 Diskussionsfäden Julian Oliver
..on Sat, Aug 06, 2011 at 04:25:19PM +0200, Louise Desrenards wrote: > Hi! > Sorry but you are making a use of Baudrillard to contribute to your > thesis but from a misunderstanding about him and about his text. > > Baudrillard has not written The conspiracy of Art from a reformist > point of view

Re: [spectre] // The State of Art //

2011-08-06 Diskussionsfäden Louise Desrenards
The conspiracy of art is a lampoon -- and all the contrary of your view this text could be a real hommage toward the wide On 6 August 2011 16:25, Louise Desrenards wrote: > Hi! > Sorry but you are making a use of Baudrillard to contribute to your > thesis but from a misunderstanding about him and

Re: [spectre] // The State of Art //

2011-08-06 Diskussionsfäden Louise Desrenards
Hi! Sorry but you are making a use of Baudrillard to contribute to your thesis but from a misunderstanding about him and about his text. Baudrillard has not written The conspiracy of Art from a reformist point of view nor from economic point of view, but as an act of critical art -- of critical ac

Re: [spectre] // The State of Art //

2011-08-06 Diskussionsfäden Julian Oliver
Hi Mattyo, Thanks for your comments, that was a good read. For what it's worth I myself am not European. I'm a European resident from New Zealand. There we have very little arts funding. Students often come out of university degrees with 30-40k loans, artist fees are very rare and exhibiting in

Re: [spectre] // The State of Art //

2011-08-06 Diskussionsfäden Simon Biggs
Hi Mattyo I can see where you are coming from and appreciate you have experience living and working in all three of the environments you were discussing (US, UK, Europe). I have a similar history (with a couple of other places thrown in for good measure) and appreciate travel puts things in con