Re: [spring] I-D Action: draft-ietf-spring-resiliency-use-cases-05.txt

2016-09-19 Thread Stefano Previdi (sprevidi)
Hi Stephane, this version hopefully addresses your comments. Let me know if there’s anything that still needs to be addressed. Thanks. s. > On Sep 19, 2016, at 7:39 PM, internet-dra...@ietf.org wrote: > > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts > directories.

[spring] I-D Action: draft-ietf-spring-resiliency-use-cases-05.txt

2016-09-19 Thread internet-drafts
A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Source Packet Routing in Networking of the IETF. Title : Use-cases for Resiliency in SPRING Authors : Clarence Filsfils Ste

Re: [spring] meaning of "Strict Shortest Path" algorithm in draft-ietf-spring-segment-routing-09

2016-09-19 Thread Alexander Vainshtein
Stefano, I think life would be simpler if you could provide a meaningful example of behavior that is "SPF" (defined as the default algorithm) but not "Strict SPF". IMHO and FWIW Chris has tried to make such an example, but it does not look as valid to some people (me included). Without any su

Re: [spring] meaning of "Strict Shortest Path" algorithm in draft-ietf-spring-segment-routing-09

2016-09-19 Thread Stefano Previdi (sprevidi)
Chris, Jeff, Alex, strict-SPF behavior has been intended as the forwarding of the packet according to spf, without any form of policy. It is true that ecmp is a matter of local implementation so we could extend the behavior description to: forwarding of the packet according to spf,

Re: [spring] meaning of "Strict Shortest Path" algorithm in draft-ietf-spring-segment-routing-09

2016-09-19 Thread Alexander Vainshtein
Jeff, I fully agree with what you say: from my POV restrictions on the number of ECMP next hops do not make an SPF less strict. Regards, Sasha Office: +972-39266302 Cell: +972-549266302 Email: alexander.vainsht...@ecitele.com From: Jeff Tantsura [mailto:jefftant.i...@gmail.com] Sent: Mon

Re: [spring] meaning of "Strict Shortest Path" algorithm in draft-ietf-spring-segment-routing-09

2016-09-19 Thread Jeff Tantsura
Number if ECMP paths is an implementation subject and would differ from platform to platform. The way subset of ECMP paths is chosen is local to the implementation. If you limit number of paths/size of ECMP bundle - it doesn't make it less SPF-strict as long as SPF(Dijkstra) has been applied to

Re: [spring] meaning of "Strict Shortest Path" algorithm in draft-ietf-spring-segment-routing-09

2016-09-19 Thread Stefano Previdi (sprevidi)
sorry. What I meant is that if you restrict the number of ecmp path you have computed, it is not what the definition of strict-spf is. IOW, strict-spf means that you forward according to what SPF algorithm has computed without applying any sort of constraint/policy/hack. s. > On Sep 19, 2016,

Re: [spring] meaning of "Strict Shortest Path" algorithm in draft-ietf-spring-segment-routing-09

2016-09-19 Thread Alexander Vainshtein
Stefano, Chris and all, I have to admit that I am completely confused: - to the best of my understanding, Chris has asked whether a policy that puts a limit on max. number of ECMP next hops is not compatible with the Strict SPF algorithm - Stefano says that "Yes, this policy is a

Re: [spring] meaning of "Strict Shortest Path" algorithm in draft-ietf-spring-segment-routing-09

2016-09-19 Thread Stefano Previdi (sprevidi)
> On Sep 14, 2016, at 7:06 PM, Chris Bowers wrote: > > SPRING WG, > > The current text in draft-ietf-spring-segment-routing-09 regarding the > "Strict Shortest Path" algorithm reads as follows. > >o "Strict Shortest Path": This algorithm mandates that the packet is > forwarded